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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2015, 07:00:14 AM »

The auto unions and teacher's union are a key constituency in each of these midwestern states. When you go against either, like Corker went against Union President Littlefield, and the way Rauner has gone against Karyn Lewis, GOPers like Walker are making a big mistake and won't win.
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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2015, 07:07:54 AM »

Based on this and the OH poll, it seems Walker is a rather poor candidate for the Midwest. The establishment should try to draft Kasich.

Exactly. A Kasich/Rubio (or Rubio/Kasich) ticket would probably be the best 2016 GOP ticket.
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That's correct. Rubio can/MUST deliver FL and Kasich can/MUST deliver OH in order to win this. Both are not the perfect candidates but GOP's best choices for 2016 at this moment.

Apart from this, the old granny was already once beaten by a young, charismatic minority senator...
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« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2015, 07:15:03 AM »

Based on this and the OH poll, it seems Walker is a rather poor candidate for the Midwest. The establishment should try to draft Kasich.

Exactly. A Kasich/Rubio (or Rubio/Kasich) ticket would probably be the best 2016 GOP ticket.
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That's correct. Rubio can/MUST deliver FL and Kasich can/MUST deliver OH in order to win this. Both are not the perfect candidates but GOP's best choices for 2016 at this moment.

Apart from this, the old granny was already once beaten by a young, charismatic minority senator...

And Dems may still win, by winning CO,NV, PA, IA, WI, NH and PA for 272-266 electoral vote victory.

And Hillary was leading Kasich, in a poll conducted early on in the campaign, and currently leads all GOPers.
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« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2015, 11:14:49 AM »

Dominating !
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« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2015, 12:08:17 PM »

This is a problem. I don't see how Walker can win without Wisconsin.

Perhaps Bush is a better candidate after all. He can win Florida and strongly contest Virginia.
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« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2015, 04:11:51 PM »

This is a problem. I don't see how Walker can win without Wisconsin.

Perhaps Bush is a better candidate after all. He can win Florida and strongly contest Virginia.


Every Republican candidate has some serious weakness. Not one has shown an ability to breach the Blue (Atlas red) firewall.  Making one or two of the swing states of 2008 or 2012 shaky just won't be enough.

I can almost predict the ad campaign against Jeb: "Like brother, like brother". Republicans may have no problem with another President like George W. Bush... but just about everyone else will. Jeb might be better than his brother, but that is a very low bar.

The luster is off Christie.

Paul Ryan  has never won a statewide race, including winning Wisconsin for Romney/Ryan in 2012. If he has no experience running a statewide race, what says that he could run a national race competently?

Rand Paul gets much support because his father was a dyed-in-the-wool libertarian... but the younger Paul is much more authoritarian on non-economic issues. That will turn off anyone who could possibly vote Democratic for the President.

Huckabee is best described as a regional candidate. He wins the southeastern sector of the US (except for Florida and Virginia) and states that never, ever, ever vote Democratic for President. That's far from good enough.

Santorum, Perry, and Rubio are just too dumb to be President.

 
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« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2015, 05:02:49 PM »

The fact that the Republican field is divided, while Hillary still has ridiculously high support means that she's going to poll better than the Republicans. In May 2003, Bush led Kerry 58-29.  Before the Iowa caucus, he led Kerry 54-32. After the Iowa caucus, he led only 49-42.
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« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2015, 05:09:14 PM »

The fact that the Republican field is divided, while Hillary still has ridiculously high support means that she's going to poll better than the Republicans. In May 2003, Bush led Kerry 58-29.  Before the Iowa caucus, he led Kerry 54-32. After the Iowa caucus, he led only 49-42.

The divided field wasn't the only reason for that though. Bush also had a sky high approval rating in 2002-2003, and then it dropped to more evenly split throughout 2004.
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« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2015, 06:55:48 PM »

The fact that the Republican field is divided, while Hillary still has ridiculously high support means that she's going to poll better than the Republicans. In May 2003, Bush led Kerry 58-29.  Before the Iowa caucus, he led Kerry 54-32. After the Iowa caucus, he led only 49-42.

And on election night he lead only 51-48. Epic fail.
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« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2015, 08:37:02 AM »

The fact that the Republican field is divided, while Hillary still has ridiculously high support means that she's going to poll better than the Republicans. In May 2003, Bush led Kerry 58-29.  Before the Iowa caucus, he led Kerry 54-32. After the Iowa caucus, he led only 49-42.

And on election night he lead only 51-48. Epic fail.

Elizabeth Warren is actually leading? I find this somehow difficult to believe. Hilarious if true, though.
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« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2015, 10:36:27 AM »

The auto unions and teacher's union are a key constituency in each of these midwestern states. When you go against either, like Corker went against Union President Littlefield, and the way Rauner has gone against Karyn Lewis, GOPers like Walker are making a big mistake and won't win.

Meh.  Republicans have been seen as anti-union for many, many decades, and they used to fair much better in those states - at a time when union membership was significantly higher, too.  I doubt that's the tipping of the scale.
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« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2015, 11:28:51 AM »

The auto unions and teacher's union are a key constituency in each of these midwestern states. When you go against either, like Corker went against Union President Littlefield, and the way Rauner has gone against Karyn Lewis, GOPers like Walker are making a big mistake and won't win.

Meh.  Republicans have been seen as anti-union for many, many decades, and they used to fair much better in those states - at a time when union membership was significantly higher, too.  I doubt that's the tipping of the scale.


GOP criticism of the Dept of Education has been thr tipper in 2008 and in 2012. When Perry said he wanted to get rid of it too.

It is Walker's iron fisted handling of this dept has put kids at risk.

That's why common core and Jeb is at odds with voters and progressives.
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« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2015, 07:23:53 PM »

We may finally get to see Walker lose in Wisconsin. Too bad it'll be to Clinton.
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