Update XXII: Cleaning Up the Meat at [redacted].

[King]

Confession, it is tech support.  It is very similar to what I was doing at Dell and at Xerox.  That's what I meant by IT support.  So, yes, it is a call center.  I will not be supporting one pharmacy, but a lot of pharmacies in Northeastern Oklahoma.  I will be at a central location about 3 miles away.  The part where I lied was the location of the job.  I apologize for that.

Apology not accepted.

Everyone of you are despicable.  I have done absolutely nothing to deserve to be so rudely insulted.

Will you be actually working in the pharmacy? Or in a room, at a central location, with a telephone, that the "local" pharmacy calls?

At the pharmacy.

Remember, folks, we have NO RIGHT to attack Bushie in ANY WAY.

[All Along The Watchtower]

this thread has been beautiful. 10/10

[Smash255]

Confession, it is tech support.  It is very similar to what I was doing at Dell and at Xerox.  That's what I meant by IT support.  So, yes, it is a call center.  I will not be supporting one pharmacy, but a lot of pharmacies in Northeastern Oklahoma.  I will be at a central location about 3 miles away.  The part where I lied was the location of the job.  I apologize for that.

I also apologize for insulting everyone earlier this morning.  You guys are not all those words I spewed out earlier.  I still don't think I deserve to be treated without dignity, but I understand where you all are coming from given my previous statements about Sprouts.  I just don't think it warranted the nastiness that resulted.  No one needed to get ugly, and neither did I.  We are all men (and 1 woman).  We are all adults.  Why can't we speak cordially like adults, not like children?  I'm talking to myself just as much as I am talking to each one of you.  I am not a piece of trash, either, like people out of anger have said.  I am far from perfect, but I'm just doing what I can to provide for myself.  I don't think a grocery store job is any more legit than a call center job.  True, my history hasn't always been kind to call center jobs, but be that as it may.

Here is the reason I left Sprouts:  I was starting to get the idea that I was seriously risking my feet and back.  I felt that I was about 10-15 years too late and about 100-125 pounds too heavy to really be able to do the job very well.  Yesterday, one of my friends on Facebook told me of when she started working as a letter carrier for the post office at age 40.  She was real heavy and not in shape at all.  She could only do the job for a short time before she had to work inside at the post office for 9 years.  She is now on disability, hurts all of the time, both of her hands now have nerve damage, and she has to get injections in her right knee twice a year all because she took on a job that she physically couldn't do.  Her bad health was not an excuse, it was reality.  That confirmed the decision to change jobs and really validated it for me.  I know you all will probably balk at her story, but it really validated the decision for me.  Now, perhaps I was wrong about my perception and my fear, but we'll really never know the answer to that.

Bushie,

Of course your feet and back were going to be sore and painful, you went from no exercise too constantly being on your feet.  This is why we told you to prepare for this, prepare for being on your feet all day.  You did make a little attempt at being on your feet, but it was a half-hearted one at that.

Secondly, just because she had issues, doesn't mean you would have the same issues.  Being a mail carrier is a bunch more work than what you were doing.  Not to mention if you actually tried to get exercise, and eat better, you wouldn't have as many issues with you back and feet.  This seems like an excuse not to really do much more than anything else.

When anything gets a bit tough, regardless if its exercise related, food related, job related or anything else you seem to try to take the easiest way out.  

[Joe Biden 2020]

There are mail carriers that are nearing retirement age that do the job fine. There are also people who work at grocery stores in that age range too. You are 32 years old. You are not "too old" to do a job that requires any physical activity. No, you are not in good shape, but leaving a job that requires a modicum of physical activity is not going to help it.

You said yourself that your friend went to work at a desk job at the post office and worked there most of the time. So it wasn't the physical activity that resulted in what happened to her, it was the fact she remained in bad shape. And you too are going to do the same unless you change, which you have not...ever. I don't think you've lasted two days on any diet. And now you finally got a job that involves standing and walking and leave, even after evidence it was helping you lose weight (though not as much as you thought of course.) So you are throwing away a job you are already well into because you panicked at a story your friend said. Surely even you can see how irrational this is.

Like I said, my perception and fear could be wrong.  On the same token, at least I have a job.  Whether it's what you all approve of or not, it is still a job.  At least I didn't quit Sprouts without another job right behind it.  I have nothing to be ashamed of at all.  I have a clear conscience in everything.  Again, I'm not going for the forum's approval.  I'm going for what's best for me.  I think this is the best thing for me at this time.

[All Along The Watchtower]

There are mail carriers that are nearing retirement age that do the job fine. There are also people who work at grocery stores in that age range too. You are 32 years old. You are not "too old" to do a job that requires any physical activity. No, you are not in good shape, but leaving a job that requires a modicum of physical activity is not going to help it.

You said yourself that your friend went to work at a desk job at the post office and worked there most of the time. So it wasn't the physical activity that resulted in what happened to her, it was the fact she remained in bad shape. And you too are going to do the same unless you change, which you have not...ever. I don't think you've lasted two days on any diet. And now you finally got a job that involves standing and walking and leave, even after evidence it was helping you lose weight (though not as much as you thought of course.) So you are throwing away a job you are already well into because you panicked at a story your friend said. Surely even you can see how irrational this is.

Like I said, my perception and fear could be wrong.  On the same token, at least I have a job.  Whether it's what you all approve of or not, it is still a job.  At least I didn't quit Sprouts without another job right behind it.  I have nothing to be ashamed of at all.  I have a clear conscience in everything.  Again, I'm not going for the forum's approval.  I'm going for what's best for me.  I think this is the best thing for me at this time.

Reported for trolling.

[King]

Like I said, my perception and fear could be wrong.  On the same token, at least I have a job.  Whether it's what you all approve of or not, it is still a job.  At least I didn't quit Sprouts without another job right behind it.  I have nothing to be ashamed of at all.  I have a clear conscience in everything.  Again, I'm not going for the forum's approval.  I'm going for what's best for me.  I think this is the best thing for me at this time.

No you don't. For your purposes, call center jobs are NOT jobs. That is rule #1 for you. You are unofficially unemployed.

You need to stay at Sprouts and I am going to save this moment right here:

This moment, this moment right here. April 3, 2015 is when you could have stayed and worked hard at Sprouts. This moment is when you could have started to get in better shape and made good money. This is the moment when you could have started to build up the savings for a move to Kenya or to marry Allison. This is when you gave that all up. Whenever you are unemployed again and not in Kenya and alone, look back at this moment as the moment you chose to give it all away.

[Joe Republic]

So let me guess:  You already attempted to turn in your two-weeks, and lo and behold... you're now referring to Sprouts in the past tense.

[Boris]

This moment, this moment right here. April 3, 2015 is when you could have stayed and worked hard at Sprouts. This moment is when you could have started to get in better shape and made good money. This is the moment when you could have started to build up the savings for a move to Kenya or to marry Allison. This is when you gave that all up. Whenever you are unemployed again and not in Kenya and alone, look back at this moment as the moment you chose to give it all away.

Eh, I feel like this moment happened back in the seminal summer of 2010 when he left for on-company instead of making an effort to improve his work performance in a perpetually stable job.

[they don't love you like i love you]

What's the longest period of time Bushie has lasted at a call center?

I suppose Dell is it since he was there almost a year, but after that? Is it even three months?

This moment, this moment right here. April 3, 2015 is when you could have stayed and worked hard at Sprouts. This moment is when you could have started to get in better shape and made good money. This is the moment when you could have started to build up the savings for a move to Kenya or to marry Allison. This is when you gave that all up. Whenever you are unemployed again and not in Kenya and alone, look back at this moment as the moment you chose to give it all away.

Eh, I feel like this moment happened back in the seminal summer of 2010 when he left for on-company instead of making an effort to improve his work performance in a perpetually stable job.

Heh it's been almost five years now, and Bushie still hasn't gotten back on track since then. Losing your job always sucks, especially for such an idiotic and embarassing reason, but most people who do so are able to get stable employment within five years...or at least are able to land a job they leave on good terms.

[King]

This moment, this moment right here. April 3, 2015 is when you could have stayed and worked hard at Sprouts. This moment is when you could have started to get in better shape and made good money. This is the moment when you could have started to build up the savings for a move to Kenya or to marry Allison. This is when you gave that all up. Whenever you are unemployed again and not in Kenya and alone, look back at this moment as the moment you chose to give it all away.

Eh, I feel like this moment happened back in the seminal summer of 2010 when he left for on-company instead of making an effort to improve his work performance in a perpetually stable job.

That was the original moment. This was his second chance. God was showing off by giving him a  good honest paying job with great food prices on employee discount. He blew it.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Bushie after all the lying you at least owe us to answer this truthfully:

When you gave your two weeks notice, were you told to keep working the remaining two weeks, or were you just escorted out and terminated immediately?

The patterns now imply the latter but we haven't gotten a real answer yet.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Bushie after all the lying you at least owe us to answer this truthfully:

When you gave your two weeks notice, were you told to keep working the remaining two weeks, or were you just escorted out and terminated immediately?

The patterns now imply the latter but we haven't gotten a real answer yet.

I was let go immediately.  That said, at least I offered the customary two-weeks notice.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I felt that I was about 10-15 years too late

...the hell? Firstly, you're a young man. I mean for God's sake. You think only teenagers work that sort of job? Ridiculous. Secondly, your job was hardly physically demanding. If you found it too hard then you need to see a doctor immediately. Thirdly, you would be surprised at how long people can work an actually physically demanding job (this lily livered forum of bourgeois suburbanites has given you the wrong idea about that - probably because they've confused athleticism with physical strength in a more practical sense - which you have enthusiastically seized on... as is your wont). Even by your (low) standards this is a pathetic excuse. Absolutely pathetic.

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Firstly, that's also bollocks: there are plenty of lard arses working in that kind of job and this 'Sprouts' chain would not have hired you if they thought you physically incapable of the job. Businesses are not charities (even if some charities are businesses). Secondly, if you think that you're too fat to work anything other than a desk job EAT LESS. Gluttony is a Sin, Bushie. Surely you were taught that?

[Joe Biden 2020]

I am going to try to not post in the Update as much, if anymore.  It would be good for my new job and my own psyche if I don't broadcast my entire life to the forum.  I am still going to talk politics and sports on the rest of the forum, but I don't want to be suckered into posting here anymore.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Bushie after all the lying you at least owe us to answer this truthfully:

When you gave your two weeks notice, were you told to keep working the remaining two weeks, or were you just escorted out and terminated immediately?

The patterns now imply the latter but we haven't gotten a real answer yet.

I was let go immediately.  That said, at least I offered the customary two-weeks notice.

Option b) then.

You know, Jeff, this sort of behavior is deeply Unchristian. And do to it in Holy Week - on Good Friday no less - as well?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I just don't understand you, Bushie, but I do think you are both mentally and physically incapable of work. That's not an insult, that's a reality. I wish you'd get help and apply for disability so at least your father would get a break financially

Unless he could get himself diagnosed with a new condition or do himself an injury there's no way that he'd be eligible. Of course given the way he acts sometimes perhaps he will eventually put in a fraudulent claim (urgh).

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

The bible doesn't apply to bushie because he's accspted Christ, so he's automatically saved. In fact, that line of thinking is why he has no shame for anything he does. Who needs morals when you hide beind Jesus?

But the notion he's 10-15 too old when he's 32 is just hide pride again. That job was beneath bushie. He deserves a 9-5 office job where he can wear a button down and tie to. Never mind most of the people who work at the grocery are in his age range. I don't know many 16 year olds here that work in my store.

[Joe Republic]

Bushie after all the lying you at least owe us to answer this truthfully:

When you gave your two weeks notice, were you told to keep working the remaining two weeks, or were you just escorted out and terminated immediately?

The patterns now imply the latter but we haven't gotten a real answer yet.

I was let go immediately.  That said, at least I offered the customary two-weeks notice.

SHOCKING

So much for taking our advice and just hanging in there for two more weeks.  But no, who needs a paycheck?  And of course, there was NOTHING WRONG with that.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

It doesn't matter that you guys are discounting the health benefits of my job.  I'm receiving advice on Facebook which has been proven time and time again to be some of the best advice I can ever receive.

Maybe that's because the advice is tainted by the fact you outright LIE LIE LIE to your friends.  You're a horrible human being.  Enjoy the suffering.

[WalterMitty]

why should fats get a check from the government just because they are fats?

that is horrible.  why dont we all just quit work and get fat and go petition uncle sam on behalf of our tired feet?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

why should fats get a check from the government just because they are fats?

that is horrible.  why dont we all just quit work and get fat and go petition uncle sam on behalf of our tired feet?

I agree with you there. Mentally though, I'm not sure bushie is able to work. His track record confirms that.

It's also a double edged sworn because I feel bad for his parents, but they're feeding his problem by continuing to fund him and his bad decisions.

[King]

Bushie after all the lying you at least owe us to answer this truthfully:

When you gave your two weeks notice, were you told to keep working the remaining two weeks, or were you just escorted out and terminated immediately?

The patterns now imply the latter but we haven't gotten a real answer yet.

I was let go immediately.  That said, at least I offered the customary two-weeks notice.

"At least I did the worst thing I could possibly have done."

[WalterMitty]

Bushie does have mental issues.  But shouldn't he try to get help for those before claiming disability?

[AkSaber]

Here is the reason I left Sprouts:  I was starting to get the idea that I was seriously risking my feet and back.  I felt that I was about 10-15 years too late and about 100-125 pounds too heavy to really be able to do the job very well.  Yesterday, one of my friends on Facebook told me of when she started working as a letter carrier for the post office at age 40.  She was real heavy and not in shape at all.  She could only do the job for a short time before she had to work inside at the post office for 9 years.  She is now on disability, hurts all of the time, both of her hands now have nerve damage, and she has to get injections in her right knee twice a year all because she took on a job that she physically couldn't do.  Her bad health was not an excuse, it was reality.  That confirmed the decision to change jobs and really validated it for me.  I know you all will probably balk at her story, but it really validated the decision for me.  Now, perhaps I was wrong about my perception and my fear, but we'll really never know the answer to that.

It sounds like (if someone is 40 and drastically overweight) she was in terrible condition for most, if not all, her life. The simple fact is excess weight and almost nonexistent physical activity lead to so many physical ailments. That is what I'd wager is the cause of her disability, not doing a physical job. Hell, ever seen 70 or 80 year-olds in the gym? They're not disabled.

I'm sorry to say, but it looks like you were looking for an excuse to flee this job. It was a challenge you never had to endure before (and all challenges which are new to us are the most terrifying) but you gave up on it before making a genuine effort to overcome it.

And please don't pretend you did the decent thing to your former company by giving them two weeks notice. I suspect you knew full-well they were going to can you on the spot, and you just wanted a 2+ week vacation to return to a slothful lifestyle.

Trust me, I speak from experience. Breaking the habit (or addiction rather) of extreme slothfulness is an extremely difficult thing to do. But it can be done. It's not impossible, but like everything else worthwhile it requires genuine effort.

The wakeup call I got was someone in my family (who I was very close with) flat-out telling me I was dangerously overweight and HAD to change. Not in a while, or at my earliest convenience, but right now. Like any other sinful activity, the best way to get right with God is to end it immediately, not make arrangements to end it at a future date.

I think that's what it's going to take with you. Someone in your inner circle is going to have to be blunt with you, and have a stern conversation about making permanent changes to how you live your life. And honestly, those are the family members who do us the most good. Their love and compassion for us is so strong they're not afraid of having a conversation which will be uncomfortable and awkward. They say things which need to be said.

[DemPGH]

I phase in and out of this, but good grief. I suggested disability a while back. There would need to be documentation of a lot of problems (paranoia, bipolar, and so on) from a psych angle. From a physical angle, it's got to be serious also. Always having the bellyache, so to speak, probably would not get it, no. There has to be a list of documented problems that are serious, and then it goes to hearings and so forth. I know an old guy who has disability, and that's what happened.

I honestly don't see any of that with Bushie. In any event, if he wanted disability, he'd have to build a medical case for it. That's the bottom line.