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President Punxsutawney Phil
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« on: March 19, 2015, 04:44:37 AM »

Exactly what it says on the tin.
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2015, 04:57:08 AM »

I guess we could use the cube root rule, just because.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2015, 04:58:57 AM »

I guess we could use the cube root rule, just because.
It's funny you mention that...
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2015, 05:29:27 AM »

As long as you still have the first-past-the-post voting, so that you can decide who represents you, I'll say yes.
But if you introduce the "proportional representation" like most European countries do than I'd definitely say no, as that voting systems attracts to many parasites.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2015, 05:36:06 AM »

Increase the size by 100, and with this expansion of the House, expand the building wing which houses it.  It would require a nice redesign of the House chamber.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2015, 06:37:15 AM »

Yes. Ideally to 1000 or more, but I'll settle for the cube root rule.
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2015, 06:48:34 AM »

Parliaments larger than 5-600 generally do not work well. So an increase with about 100 should be the maximum.

500 each representing 0,2% of voters might be a good size.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2015, 07:19:40 AM »

Parliaments larger than 5-600 generally do not work well. So an increase with about 100 should be the maximum.

500 each representing 0,2% of voters might be a good size.

The European Parliament might not be the best, but it doesn't exactly strike me as dysfunctional.
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2015, 08:34:31 AM »

Definitely. By 100 seems to be the best choice.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2015, 08:40:01 AM »

Absolutely. It would not cost very much to remodel the Capitol and offices to fit 1000 members.

Ideally, this would also be done in a 52 state solution with Puerto Rico a state and organize the other territories under "District of Columbia and the U.S. Territories" a state as well.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2015, 10:25:31 AM »

Yes, it should be increased. Preferred size is the cube root.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2015, 10:31:13 AM »

I think the rule should be that you take the population of the least populated state and set that equal to one representative. That being Wyoming at 563,626, the states would be as follows:

1 Seat:
Wyoming
Vermont
DC (I can dream)
Alaska
North Dakota
South Dakota
Delaware
Montana
Rhode Island

2 Seats:
New Hampshire
Maine
Hawaii
Idaho

3 Seats:
West Virginia
Nebraska
New Mexico

4 Seats:
Nevada

5 Seats:
Kansas
Utah
Arkansas
Mississippi
Iowa

6 Seats:
Connecticut
Oklahoma
Oregon

7 Seats:
Kentucky

8 Seats:
Louisiana
South Carolina
Alabama
Colorado

9 Seats:
Minnesota

10 Seats:
Wisconsin
Maryland
Missouri

11 Seats:
Tennessee
Indiana
Arizona
Massachusetts
Washington

14 Seats:
Virginia

15 Seats:
New Jersey

17 Seats:
Michigan
North Carolina
Georgia

20 Seats:
Ohio

22 Seats:
Pennsylvania
Illinois

33 Seats:
Florida

34 Seats:
New York

44 Seats:
Texas

66 Seats:
California

I believe this adds up to a total of 527 seats (correct me if I am wrong).

Ideally, this would be used within a mixed-member proportional system, so while there would be at least this many seats from 2010-2020 (census years), there would most likely be a few more to compensate for what the actual voting shares were of each party at the national level.
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2015, 01:09:30 PM »

I like the idea of 1000 districts (at least from spending as much time as I do experimenting in DRA), but I'm not sure how feasible it is.
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2015, 01:55:24 PM »

Yes it should, preferably to about 2,300+.
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2015, 02:28:49 PM »

Parliaments larger than 5-600 generally do not work well. So an increase with about 100 should be the maximum.

500 each representing 0,2% of voters might be a good size.

I like this.
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2015, 02:31:14 PM »

I like the Wyoming Rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming_Rule
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2015, 02:45:53 PM »

Yes, in order to bring back multi-member districts.
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2015, 03:36:26 PM »

Absolutely.
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2015, 03:51:26 PM »

Are you people insane? We already have enough Congressmen.
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2015, 04:39:31 PM »

Bumping it up to 500 would be ok.

What's the cube root rule?
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2015, 05:46:02 PM »

Yes, if and when we switch to MMP.  And then only upon the passage of the Right to Vote Amendment to prevent any disenfranchising shenanigans for partisan purposes.  
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2015, 06:56:44 PM »

Yes, put it in the low 700s or so.
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2015, 07:07:28 PM »

I'd increase it by 300, to 735. 
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2015, 09:30:09 PM »

Yes, if and when we switch to MMP.  And then only upon the passage of the Right to Vote Amendment to prevent any disenfranchising shenanigans for partisan purposes.  

No, no, no!!! MMP is the worst voting system you could imagine. If you're unlucky, the parliament could swell up to worrying levels. No, FPTP is a decent voting principle.
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2015, 09:34:44 PM »

Yes. There's far too many people to each district in comparison to other countries.
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