Which state is Hillary more likely to lose?
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« on: March 19, 2015, 09:13:13 AM »

Some would say VA because it's an "Obama coalition" state, but I think she'll probably carry it. OH is likely to drift rightward in the future, and if minority turnout worsens I can see her losing it by 2-3%.
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2015, 09:27:02 AM »

Virginia's leftward trend predates Obama, and the antics of Republicans in congress hurt the GOP here more than in any other state. I'd go with Ohio.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2015, 10:11:25 AM »

Ohio I don't see Hillary carrying Hamilton county
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2015, 10:15:20 AM »

Ohio.

Virginia. More blacks in proportion to the population than any other Northern state (it is Northern now despite its Southern past), and huge numbers of government employees who are not going to let their good times come to an end for tax cuts.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2015, 10:50:47 AM »

Hillary doesn't need either VA or OH, as long as she wins PA,IA, WI, NM, CO, NV, and NH for the 272 firewall.

Which she is fully capable of.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2015, 11:52:10 AM »

Ohio. What is happening in Virginia is more than Obama coalition. There is flight in the DC burbs from Maryland into Virginia and it's mostly Democrats.

It elected Terry McAuliffe in a midterm. Terry McAuliffe.
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2015, 12:30:20 PM »

Close call, but I'd say Ohio.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2015, 12:31:30 PM »

If she wins, she'll probably carry both.
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2015, 12:33:46 PM »

Against Walker I don't see Hillary losing either, but I'm gonna go with Ohio. Virginia was trending dem before Obama, elected Mcauliffe and Warner by the partisan nature of NoVa, even during bad elections for Dems  and federal employees aren't going to reward Republicans for the silly goosery they like pulling every few months.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2015, 01:57:02 PM »

Ohio, based on the arguments presented above.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2015, 06:16:41 PM »

She's more likely to lose Ohio (especially if Kasich is on the ticket), but it would have to be a national loss of 1 point of more.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2015, 06:41:18 PM »

Ohio.

It's slightly more conservative than the norm.

And Hillary Clinton seems like a good candidate for Virginia swing voters.

Odds are both states will go to the same individual.
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2015, 07:18:50 PM »

Ohio. But if she wins either she is almost certainly going to win the election.
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2015, 07:28:22 PM »

Why would Hilary lose Ohio before Va? Ohio is part of 272 firewall, with the help of winning CO or OH will get her over 270.
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2015, 07:35:53 PM »

I am looking senate races as well, and Strickland. will do very well in Ohio.
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2015, 09:02:21 PM »

Ohio, of course. The Democratic trend in Virginia (as well as Colorado) predates Obama's candidacy. I highly doubt Ohio will be more Democratic than the nation as a whole in 2016, and if it is, it'll probably be by less than 1%.
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2015, 10:13:57 PM »

Ohio.

Virginia. More blacks in proportion to the population than any other Northern state (it is Northern now despite its Southern past), and huge numbers of government employees who are not going to let their good times come to an end for tax cuts.
LOL no Virginia is still Southern. The whites there are more conservative than the Union. Only Dem due to minorities.

Aren't Virginia whites actually more Republican than West Virginia whites?
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2015, 10:21:01 PM »

Ohio.

Virginia. More blacks in proportion to the population than any other Northern state (it is Northern now despite its Southern past), and huge numbers of government employees who are not going to let their good times come to an end for tax cuts.
LOL no Virginia is still Southern. The whites there are more conservative than the Union. Only Dem due to minorities.

Aren't Virginia whites actually more Republican than West Virginia whites?

Even if that was true last election, I doubt it will be true in the next one, and certainly not in the one after that. But back to the topic at hand, NOVA is no longer Southern in any meaningful way, but the rest of the state very much still is.
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2015, 11:36:37 PM »

Ohio, because 1) the DC suburb impact is not isolated to Obama, see: 2013 and 2) Hillary can pick up some southern Democrat votes downstate that Obama could not.
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