Election night 2016:Ted Cruz declared the winner. What is your reaction?
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Chancellor Tanterterg
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« Reply #75 on: March 26, 2015, 02:18:35 PM »
« edited: March 26, 2015, 02:26:25 PM by X »

- Fair enough on the reasons you dislike Hillary, but you're being extremely hyperbolic about how "right wing" she is. She had a fairly liberal voting record in the Senate, has been a consistent booster of women's rights, tried to get healthcare reform passed in the 90s...

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

There's a very big burden of proof on you calling Hillary right wing that can't be brushed off by agreeing to disagree.

I never actually used the term "right-wing" to describe her in the post IceSpear was responding to.  That was IceSpear's word choice, not mine.
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« Reply #76 on: March 26, 2015, 03:57:49 PM »

What do you think I'm wrong about re:SCOTUS? It's an objective fact that if you replaced one of the liberal justices with a right winger that we would've lost the cases on Obamacare and DOMA.

It doesn't really matter why Snyder, Walker, etc. were re-elected. The fact remains that they were, despite pushing an issue that was far less popular than repeal of Obamacare. If they were not punished by the voters for doing so, why would the Republican Party as a whole be punished for repealing an unpopular law?

Well, you and King have already discussed Hillary's positions on the issues. From issue statements and voting record she's about where the average Democrat is. The "Hillary is right wing" thing comes from things like her giving a speech at Wall Street (as if most Dems don't fundraise from there), and placing way too much weight on a single vote from over a decade ago as opposed to looking at the bigger picture. I suppose we'll eventually see what her platform is after she declares.

If someone more liberal than Strickland/Murphy can't win Ohio/Florida in the Senate races, then why can someone far more liberal than Strickland/Murphy win Ohio/Florida in the presidential race?
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« Reply #77 on: March 26, 2015, 04:13:55 PM »
« Edited: March 26, 2015, 04:15:33 PM by X »

What do you think I'm wrong about re:SCOTUS? It's an objective fact that if you replaced one of the liberal justices with a right winger that we would've lost the cases on Obamacare and DOMA.

It doesn't really matter why Snyder, Walker, etc. were re-elected. The fact remains that they were, despite pushing an issue that was far less popular than repeal of Obamacare. If they were not punished by the voters for doing so, why would the Republican Party as a whole be punished for repealing an unpopular law?

Well, you and King have already discussed Hillary's positions on the issues. From issue statements and voting record she's about where the average Democrat is. The "Hillary is right wing" thing comes from things like her giving a speech at Wall Street (as if most Dems don't fundraise from there), and placing way too much weight on a single vote from over a decade ago as opposed to looking at the bigger picture. I suppose we'll eventually see what her platform is after she declares.

If someone more liberal than Strickland/Murphy can't win Ohio/Florida in the Senate races, then why can someone far more liberal than Strickland/Murphy win Ohio/Florida in the presidential race?

Rob Portman is an infinitely stronger candidate than anyone currently considering running on the Republican side and Murphy is the most liberal candidate who can win in FL because he is basically the only proven A-lister in a state with a God-awful Democratic bench (I guess Graham and some of the Mayors also qualify, but Murphy is still a much stronger candidate than any of them and probably the only Dem capable of winning his race).  Brown would definitely carry Ohio and while he'd likely do worse than Hillary in Florida, he'd more than make up for it elsewhere.
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« Reply #78 on: March 27, 2015, 05:48:37 PM »

Let's say Cruz gets the nomination and wins the general. What is your election night reaction?

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« Reply #79 on: March 28, 2015, 08:17:27 PM »

Let's say Cruz gets the nomination and wins the general. What is your election night reaction?

Kirk Lazarus was wrong; You CAN go full retard.
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