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« on: March 22, 2015, 03:20:44 PM »
Died today at 91. Sad
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2015, 03:24:10 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2015, 03:25:13 PM »
He certainly was a legendary figure.
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2015, 03:26:39 PM »
« Edited: March 22, 2015, 04:27:59 PM by Governor Simfan34 »
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2015, 03:41:57 PM »
The BBC clearly had an obituary ready to go:

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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2015, 04:27:29 PM »
Very well, then. Now, what is the Straits Times saying?

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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2015, 04:50:47 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2015, 06:02:13 PM »
Truly a legend and a wonderful leader.
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2015, 06:37:05 PM »
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Truly a legend and a wonderful leader.

Indeed. (normal, not a fan of poverty)
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2015, 07:01:56 PM »
RIP massive mixed bag
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2015, 07:28:50 PM »
Some definite problems, but all in all, he was the man Singapore needed at the time.  RIP
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2015, 07:36:05 PM »
« Edited: March 22, 2015, 07:46:57 PM by Governor Simfan34 »
Think what you want of him, but he spoke his mind far more than most other politicians would dare even dream of doing. Singapore might be a repressive and intrusive state, yes, but he never bothered to claim otherwise. Beyond the rhetoric of "cultural values", he was perfectly fine with admitting that some policies went against custom or ideas of personal autonomy, and that this was for the good of the country. He was never disingenuous about what he was doing.

Sure he said some off-colour things (I'm sure I've mentioned his comment about the dangers of Hispanic immigration to the  United States before), but bluntness is a very rare trait in politicians.
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2015, 10:37:00 PM »
RIP FF.
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2015, 10:50:19 PM »
An interesting fellow. RIP.
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2015, 11:09:58 PM »
'The good and necessary fascist'
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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2015, 11:24:24 PM »
Perhaps the superlative example in history of enlightened despotism.

that there are so few other examples that come to mind  is telling
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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2015, 01:15:30 PM »
Quote from: True Federalist on March 22, 2015, 07:28:50 PM
Some definite problems, but all in all, he was the man Singapore needed at the time.  RIP

Right.  Certainly not perfect, but it's hard to argue that he was good for the country overall.
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2015, 05:16:18 PM »
RIP, an accomplished HP.
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2015, 12:03:16 PM »
The "miracle" of Singapore looks good from a distance, and was indeed good for the people who lived there at independence.

But one mustn't forget that much of that growth has been built on the back of "foreign workers" (many who spend their whole lives there) who are systematically denied the benefits and opportunities of citizenship.  That's not something I'm interested in glossing over.
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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2015, 06:35:36 AM »
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Just thought should me mentioned.
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2015, 06:39:40 AM »
« Edited: March 25, 2015, 06:49:41 AM by Charlotte Hebdo »
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Just thought should me mentioned.

He basically created the "Chinese model" and it is being copied in a wide range of developing countries, so in that way he probably indirectly did more to prevent the spread of democracy than any other post-WW2 figure.
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2015, 06:45:22 AM »
I'm not at all surprised to see our blue avatars weeping over a semi-dictatorial figure.
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2015, 06:47:23 AM »
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Just thought should me mentioned.

He basically created the "Chinese model" and it is being copied in a wide range of developing countries, so in that way he probably indirectly did more to prevent the spread of democracy than any other post-WW2 figure.

No wonder he's been called one of the most influential Asians of the Century.
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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2015, 07:17:16 AM »
Quote from: Jim Bolivar di Griz on March 25, 2015, 06:45:22 AM
I'm not at all surprised to see our blue avatars weeping over a semi-dictatorial figure.

At least he made the trains run on time?
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2015, 07:29:39 AM »
Quote from: CrabCake on March 25, 2015, 07:17:16 AM
Quote from: Jim Bolivar di Griz on March 25, 2015, 06:45:22 AM
I'm not at all surprised to see our blue avatars weeping over a semi-dictatorial figure.

At least he made the trains run on time?

Close, he established "Disneyland with the gallows".
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