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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2015, 09:17:55 AM »

He was an extremely important figure, yes. But guys...
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« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2015, 03:38:24 PM »

I'm not at all surprised to see our blue avatars weeping over a semi-dictatorial figure.

Remember they do the same about Pinochet.
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« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2015, 04:38:38 PM »

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Just thought should me mentioned.

He basically created the "Chinese model" and it is being copied in a wide range of developing countries, so in that way he probably indirectly did more to prevent the spread of democracy than any other post-WW2 figure.

The success of this model in the growth of democracy reminds me of what a strong democracy China remains today.
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« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2015, 04:41:27 PM »

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Just thought should me mentioned.

He basically created the "Chinese model" and it is being copied in a wide range of developing countries, so in that way he probably indirectly did more to prevent the spread of democracy than any other post-WW2 figure.

The success of this model in the growth of democracy reminds me of what a strong democracy China remains today.

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Did you miss the word prevent?
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« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2015, 04:48:23 PM »

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Just thought should me mentioned.

He basically created the "Chinese model" and it is being copied in a wide range of developing countries, so in that way he probably indirectly did more to prevent the spread of democracy than any other post-WW2 figure.

The success of this model in the growth of democracy reminds me of what a strong democracy China remains today.

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Did you miss the word prevent?

ugh. I'm blind. Ignore this post.
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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2015, 05:18:43 PM »

Close, he established "Disneyland with the gallows".

It was Disneyland with the Death Penalty, but still a great article I like to drop during conversation.

Here's a postmortem by Philip Bowring, the journalist who was sued by LKY for mentioning Singapore's current Prime Minister is the elder Lee's song. What makes it good is its focus on the part of Lee's tenure that mattered: the decade or two when he had to lead a country that shouldn't exist, but does exist in the wake of the Malaya expulsion.

Most of us here won't have lived through that, seeing Lee only after he took the pedal off the wheels. Trading competence for theorizing, he has tried in his last years to convince others he actually created a new economic model (in contrast to just market arbitrage and capital accumulation), and that his "Confucian values" rubbed off on his subjects. And it's our problem that he didn't totally fail.
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« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2015, 06:51:37 PM »

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Just thought should me mentioned.

He basically created the "Chinese model" and it is being copied in a wide range of developing countries, so in that way he probably indirectly did more to prevent the spread of democracy than any other post-WW2 figure.

The success of this model in the growth of democracy reminds me of what a strong democracy China remains today.

Roll Eyes

Did you miss the word prevent?

ugh. I'm blind. Ignore this post.

IMO, Lee Kuan Yew's influence on China is overrated. Deng in the 1980s was looking to Singapore yes, but also to the United States, to Japan, to Hong Kong, to pretty much every capitalist country. But his commitment to authoritarianism was ironclad throughout and never depended on an external "model". His only model was to avoid the "chaos" of the Cultural Revolution from happening again, which he tragically associated with the student movements.

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« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2015, 09:43:48 AM »

Singapore police have arrested a teenager for making a YouTube video entitled 'Finally LKY is dead!'

Just like the old man would have wanted :')
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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2015, 10:40:28 AM »

Here's the video anyway:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMODDfNE0Y

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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2015, 11:53:14 AM »

Singapore police have arrested a teenager for making a YouTube video entitled 'Finally LKY is dead!'

Just like the old man would have wanted :')

He should be grateful they won't hang him outright, just give some whipping.
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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2015, 02:23:24 PM »

Feeling sad about the death of people over the age of 80 who don't actually know is a bit... well...

don't do it.
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« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2015, 03:58:14 PM »


Pretty good actually - maybe a "dick" or two too many, but such is the teenage mind.

Singapore gets too much credit and the downside is rarely mentioned.
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