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« on: March 22, 2015, 09:01:18 PM »
How would West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) do if he ran for president in 2016 as a dark horse if Hillary declined to run?
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2015, 09:03:09 PM »
Check out the 2016 game thread Wink

Clear victory for Manch-man!
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2015, 09:59:45 PM »
He'd barely make it to the Iowa caucus at best. Assuming that Jim Webb still runs he already fills the niece that Manchin would be aiming for anyway.
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2015, 08:26:33 AM »
Quote from: Zen Lunatic on March 22, 2015, 09:59:45 PM
He'd barely make it to the Iowa caucus at best. Assuming that Jim Webb still runs he already fills the niece that Manchin would be aiming for anyway.

Who's niece is this? I don't believe that they're going to happy about this.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 09:02:19 AM »
Quote from: Zen Lunatic on March 22, 2015, 09:59:45 PM
He'd barely make it to the Iowa caucus at best. Assuming that Jim Webb still runs he already fills the niece that Manchin would be aiming for anyway.

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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2015, 12:47:54 PM »
lol the same Manchin who didn't support Obama in 2012? He wouldn't even get to Iowa
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2015, 12:49:15 PM »
Quote from: Speaker Blair on March 23, 2015, 12:47:54 PM
lol the same Manchin who didn't support Obama in 2012? He wouldn't even get to Iowa

He'd win AK, KY, WV, and TN though.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2015, 01:29:23 PM »
Quote from: Monarch on March 23, 2015, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: Speaker Blair on March 23, 2015, 12:47:54 PM
lol the same Manchin who didn't support Obama in 2012? He wouldn't even get to Iowa

He'd win AK, KY, WV, and TN though.

What in the GE?
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2015, 01:37:54 PM »
Quote from: Speaker Blair on March 23, 2015, 01:29:23 PM
Quote from: Monarch on March 23, 2015, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: Speaker Blair on March 23, 2015, 12:47:54 PM
lol the same Manchin who didn't support Obama in 2012? He wouldn't even get to Iowa

He'd win AK, KY, WV, and TN though.

What in the GE?

In a Clintonless primary against any other Democrat.
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2015, 02:08:46 PM »
Quote from: Monarch on March 23, 2015, 01:37:54 PM
Quote from: Speaker Blair on March 23, 2015, 01:29:23 PM
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lol the same Manchin who didn't support Obama in 2012? He wouldn't even get to Iowa

He'd win AK, KY, WV, and TN though.

What in the GE?

In a Clintonless primary against any other Democrat.

No chance, another much better conservative democrat like Warner, Kaine or Hagan could do much better than Manchin. Really this man makes Bob Bryd look like a liberal democrat
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2015, 02:46:29 PM »
ugh.  im sure all of you right wing democrats are salivating at the thought.
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2015, 04:36:35 PM »
Quote from: SunriseAroundTheWorld on March 23, 2015, 02:16:43 PM
Under what definition is Post-1980's Byrd not center-left?

Limited support for LGBT rights etc, voted against affirmative action. He was a Moderate

My point was basically that Manchin is more right wing that Bryd
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2015, 04:43:36 PM »
Manchin could make major inroads among the "Hillary is a right wing neoliberal warmonger" group.
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2015, 08:08:15 PM »
Manchin's chances for the Democratic Presidential nomination died the day he refused to disclose who he voted for in West Virginia's 2012 Democratic Primary, a race where almost 40% of the voters voted for a Federal Prison inmate over Obama.  That he could not endorse Obama over a prison inmate speaks volumes as to where he's at with regard to the rest of the Democratic Party.

The problem with a moderate Democrat running for President is that moderates and conservatives constitute 25% of those who identify themselves as Democrats.  This is an all-time low, and that number is dropping because conservatives don't have any more incentive to be Democrats and moderates are forces to the left or to the right in order to be viable.  There's no market for Manchin anymore.  He doesn't matter anymore.  He could matter again under certain circumstances, but he would need to switch to the GOP to matter, and I don't know if he isn't too liberal to where such a switch wouldn't take.
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2015, 10:29:41 PM »
Joe Manchin is going to run for governor of West Virginia in 2016.
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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2015, 03:01:05 AM »
Quote from: SunriseAroundTheWorld on March 23, 2015, 02:16:43 PM
Under what definition is Post-1980's Byrd not center-left?

Center left doesn't vote for Alito.
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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2015, 08:50:01 PM »
Talk about making progressives stay home...
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2015, 08:59:57 PM »
Just take a look at his inbreeding face...
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2015, 09:12:39 PM »
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on March 24, 2015, 03:01:05 AM
Quote from: SunriseAroundTheWorld on March 23, 2015, 02:16:43 PM
Under what definition is Post-1980's Byrd not center-left?

Center left doesn't vote for Alito.

While I didn't know he did that, he's still clearly to the left of the modern Republican Party on economics.
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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2015, 02:15:27 AM »
The only raison d'etre for a Manchin campaign would be to get an old school Democrat on prime time TV and garner appeal with Demosaurs in order to have an eventual endorsement of Clinton matter.

Which won't happen. I can see Manchin refuse to endorse Clinton too.
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2015, 02:24:38 AM »
Quote from: Tayya on March 25, 2015, 02:15:27 AM
The only raison d'etre for a Manchin campaign would be to get an old school Democrat on prime time TV and garner appeal with Demosaurs in order to have an eventual endorsement of Clinton matter.

Which won't happen. I can see Manchin refuse to endorse Clinton too.

He's already endorsed her.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-live/2014/01/joe-manchin-backs-clinton-182216.html
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