Nikita Khrushchev vs Leonid Brezhnev

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Your thoughts?

[TNF]

Neither, as both represented the Stalinoid bureaucracy that crushed the Russian Revolution.

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Neither, as both represented the Stalinoid bureaucracy that crushed the Russian Revolution.

'Neither' is cheating.

Fwiw, I said Krushchev. Although he was an erratic person at the best of times and his monstering of Hungary was dreadful, he dismantled the gulags and had a few (relatively) interesting reforms, all of which were of course dismantled as soon as he was deposed.

Brezhnev however was just useless. Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan, the exploding military budget and was just a vain bastard.

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[Antonio the Sixth]

Khrushchev easily.

[Türkisblau]

Can we please get some more thought-provoking/controversial polls? I don't think this is up to debate at all.

[Cory]

Khrushchev easily.

[RogueBeaver]

Khrushchev easily.

[TDAS04]

The lesser evil, Khrushchev.

[H. Ross Peron]

Khrushchev easily.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Khrushchev easily.

[Blair]

I'm going to be add some difference and say Khrushchev. He was simply the better leader, and actually had the capacity to rule whilst Brezhnev spent the last 5 years drugged up in a state that made Stalin look alert

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Khrushchev was a semi dangerous foreign adventurist though, who almost caused a nuclear armageddon during the Cuban missile crisis in 1962. He also threatened that 'rockets would fly' in 1961 if the western allies would not leave West Berlin.

Brezhnev on the other hand did have a period of detente and good relations with the US. He also signed multiple nuclear arms control agreements with the US that eased cold war tensions.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Brezhnev was responsible for a total stagnation that led to the Soviet Union collapse. He was very lucky to die before it happened, so poor Gorbachev took the blame for dissolution no one could prevent anymore. Ironic, given how much praise is Brezhnev getting in Russia, especially from unreconstructed types.

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Khrushchev was a semi dangerous foreign adventurist though, who almost caused a nuclear armageddon during the Cuban missile crisis in 1962. He also threatened that 'rockets would fly' in 1961 if the western allies would not leave West Berlin.

Brezhnev on the other hand did have a period of detente and good relations with the US. He also signed multiple nuclear arms control agreements with the US that eased cold war tensions.

Actually, detente had been delayed in the mid-to-late 60s by such developments as Vietnam and Czechoslovakia, which he had nothing to do with.

[Beet]

Khruschev, but Zyzz does have somewhat of a point. Khruschev was a bit of a buffoon. Under Brezhnev, the USSR reached military parity with the US. Both of them suffered diplomatic defeats. Khruschev lost China, but since it was for denouncing Stalin, he can be forgiven for it. Brezhnev lost Egypt, and by extension the entire Middle East, and was forced to invade Afghanistan.

[Beet]

Brezhnev was responsible for a total stagnation that led to the Soviet Union collapse. He was very lucky to die before it happened, so poor Gorbachev took the blame for dissolution no one could prevent anymore. Ironic, given how much praise is Brezhnev getting in Russia, especially from unreconstructed types.

The single decision most responsible for the collapse of the USSR was the repeal of the Brezhnev doctrine.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Khruschev, but Zyzz does have somewhat of a point. Khruschev was a bit of a buffoon. Under Brezhnev, the USSR reached military parity with the US. Both of them suffered diplomatic defeats. Khruschev lost China, but since it was for denouncing Stalin, he can be forgiven for it. Brezhnev lost Egypt, and by extension the entire Middle East, and was forced to invade Afghanistan.

Yea Khrushchev was a bit of a buffoon on the world stage. He also banged his shoes on the table at the UN and made the 'we will bury you' statement. That statement scared the crap out of a lot of westerners and they assumed it meant that they would bury us in a nuclear war.