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« on: March 23, 2015, 02:16:59 PM »

In light of the 50th anniversary.

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 02:21:18 PM »

racist/fascist trash (normal): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AduaJaFoK9M
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2015, 06:30:16 PM »

One of best musicals ever, and it truly deserved it's Best Picture Oscar...Though it's disturbing how many people, especially in Austria don't know that "Eedelwiess" isn't the Austrian national anthem.

In addition Julie Andrews got robbed of a second Oscar for Best Actress for being Maria Von Trapp, IMO, maybe the writing staff made the role to much Mary Poppins (also portrayed by Julie Andrews)?
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2015, 06:43:42 PM »

Wonderful music.  When my son was in kindergarten, during his first year of piano lessons he learned  "Edelweiss", "My Favorite Things", and "Do-Re-Mi."  Mary Poppins had some songs that he learned as well.  Sometimes I get those confused.  I think that one featured Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, which he also learned to play.  Later, in the second grade his teacher gave him the score of "Climb Every Mountain."  Anyway, I remember us all watching the Sound of Music together.  Before we watched it together, I'd forgotten about all the politics and the gun violence near the end, but otherwise it was a very fun and exciting movie for us to watch when he was young.

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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 06:45:45 PM »


For once, Zizek may have a point. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2015, 09:52:04 PM »

Freedom Musical
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2015, 10:08:58 PM »

FM (Not Lief/Zizek/insert some communist poster here)
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2015, 10:13:53 PM »

FM (Not Lief/Zizek/insert some communist poster here)


I am not a communist and Zizek's analysis of the film has absolutely nothing to do with communism or Marxism.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2015, 02:52:50 AM »


Got nothing out of that. Maybe it's an accent divide, but I couldn't seem to understand it. Seems he's basically saying that the Nazis are presented as upper-class and cosmopolitan, as opposed to the noble-hearted small town Austrians, and that this represents our fear of cosmopolitan Jews and how they would perceivably threaten our way of life. Seems like too far a logical leap to make. The depiction of the protagonists being kind-hearted, rural, small town residents being confronted by antagonistic, upper-class, urban, cosmopolitan, etc. is ages old and to my (albeit anecdotal and subjective) knowledge, it has little to do with anti-semitism. Obligated to vote Freedom Musical due to the absurdity of this argument.

Maybe that is because you're American. European anti-semitism and fascism is kind of defined by this notion which recurs in European culture all the time.
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2015, 01:17:58 PM »

Wonderful music.  When my son was in kindergarten, during his first year of piano lessons he learned  "Edelweiss", "My Favorite Things", and "Do-Re-Mi."  Mary Poppins had some songs that he learned as well.  Sometimes I get those confused.  I think that one featured Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, which he also learned to play.  Later, in the second grade his teacher gave him the score of "Climb Every Mountain."  Anyway, I remember us all watching the Sound of Music together.  Before we watched it together, I'd forgotten about all the politics and the gun violence near the end, but otherwise it was a very fun and exciting movie for us to watch when he was young.



Perhaps you should watch the German version which ends at the wedding.
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2015, 01:41:19 PM »


Got nothing out of that. Maybe it's an accent divide, but I couldn't seem to understand it. Seems he's basically saying that the Nazis are presented as upper-class and cosmopolitan, as opposed to the noble-hearted small town Austrians, and that this represents our fear of cosmopolitan Jews and how they would perceivably threaten our way of life. Seems like too far a logical leap to make. The depiction of the protagonists being kind-hearted, rural, small town residents being confronted by antagonistic, upper-class, urban, cosmopolitan, etc. is ages old and to my (albeit anecdotal and subjective) knowledge, it has little to do with anti-semitism. Obligated to vote Freedom Musical due to the absurdity of this argument.

Maybe that is because you're American. European anti-semitism and fascism is kind of defined by this notion which recurs in European culture all the time.

But this is basically to give to fascism the credibility that it was in fact what it claimed to be in terms of the upholding of traditional bucolic way of life and national freedoms.  Whereas the Sound of Music is saying, it is not those things but a threat to those things, at least when discussing Nazism.  One might argue that the Sound of Music is upholding the softer fascism of Dollfuss as superior and more authentic than the totalitarian fascism of Hitler. But Fascism itself is not wholly identified with the sort of life extolled by the Sound of Music, as demonstrated by the connection of the Futurist aesthetic to Italian Fascism.
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2015, 01:56:16 PM »

It's actually the German border that they're walking towards at the end of the film.
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