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« Reply #125 on: April 18, 2015, 12:56:58 PM »

You guys actually want CLC in the senate? Grayson would lose the general by at least 15, no questions asked.
They're Republicans/Republican-leaning.

Nah, I'm just looking for entertainment in these races.

Indeed. I'm frankly tired, as an election observer, of the Democrats coronation process.
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« Reply #126 on: April 18, 2015, 01:00:21 PM »

Guys, please don't act as if Murphy would beat CLC by 20 points and Grayson would lose by the same margin. CLC and Grayson are not to be underestimated and Murphy is not inevitable.
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« Reply #127 on: April 18, 2015, 02:14:22 PM »

Guys, please don't act as if Murphy would beat CLC by 20 points and Grayson would lose by the same margin. CLC and Grayson are not to be underestimated and Murphy is not inevitable.

Obviously, we're still a purple state! It's just some of those out of staters that think that.
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« Reply #128 on: April 18, 2015, 09:18:47 PM »

Guys, please don't act as if Murphy would beat CLC by 20 points and Grayson would lose by the same margin. CLC and Grayson are not to be underestimated and Murphy is not inevitable.

Obviously, we're still a purple state! It's just some of those out of staters that think that.

I will never underestimate either the tactical ability of the RPOF or the potential incompetence of the FDP.
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« Reply #129 on: April 18, 2015, 09:25:58 PM »

Guys, please don't act as if Murphy would beat CLC by 20 points and Grayson would lose by the same margin. CLC and Grayson are not to be underestimated and Murphy is not inevitable.
We are not saying that. It will be close, but I suspect Murphy could beat CLC 52-48%.
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« Reply #130 on: April 18, 2015, 09:34:28 PM »

Guys, please don't act as if Murphy would beat CLC by 20 points and Grayson would lose by the same margin. CLC and Grayson are not to be underestimated and Murphy is not inevitable.
Strawman much?
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« Reply #131 on: April 18, 2015, 10:27:21 PM »

Guys, please don't act as if Murphy would beat CLC by 20 points and Grayson would lose by the same margin. CLC and Grayson are not to be underestimated and Murphy is not inevitable.
Strawman much?

As if that isn't perpetuated enough by you guys
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« Reply #132 on: April 18, 2015, 10:44:34 PM »

Guys, please don't act as if Murphy would beat CLC by 20 points and Grayson would lose by the same margin. CLC and Grayson are not to be underestimated and Murphy is not inevitable.
Strawman much?

As if that isn't perpetuated enough by you guys

Obviously no one has been saying Murphy would demolish CLC in this race. His post was a strawman, your whining is unnecessary.
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« Reply #133 on: April 19, 2015, 09:03:37 PM »

Basically a run-down on all of the candidates

GOP
-Vern Buchanan (FL-16)
-Tom Rooney (FL-17)
-Ron DeSantis (FL-6)
-Jeff Miller (FL-1)
-Curt Clawson (FL-19)
-Tom Jolly (FL-13)
-Carlos Lopez-Cantera (LG)
-George LeMieux (Fmr. Sen.)

DEM
-Patrick Murphy (FL-18)
-Alan Grayson (FL-9)

No surprises if you've been actively reading this thread.
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« Reply #134 on: April 19, 2015, 09:14:20 PM »

Basically a run-down on all of the candidates

GOP
-Vern Buchanan (FL-16)
-Tom Rooney (FL-17)
-Ron DeSantis (FL-6)
-Jeff Miller (FL-1)
-Curt Clawson (FL-19)
-Tom Jolly (FL-13)
-Carlos Lopez-Cantera (LG)
-George LeMieux (Fmr. Sen.)

DEM
-Patrick Murphy (FL-18)
-Alan Grayson (FL-9)

No surprises if you've been actively reading this thread.

David Jolly, not Tom.  And why is Clawson considering? He wouldn't win a statewide race barring a 1984-style climate.
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« Reply #135 on: April 19, 2015, 09:27:29 PM »

Basically a run-down on all of the candidates

GOP
-Vern Buchanan (FL-16)
-Tom Rooney (FL-17)
-Ron DeSantis (FL-6)
-Jeff Miller (FL-1)
-Curt Clawson (FL-19)
-Tom Jolly (FL-13)
-Carlos Lopez-Cantera (LG)
-George LeMieux (Fmr. Sen.)

DEM
-Patrick Murphy (FL-18)
-Alan Grayson (FL-9)

No surprises if you've been actively reading this thread.

David Jolly, not Tom.  And why is Clawson considering? He wouldn't win a statewide race barring a 1984-style climate.

He'd win because of his strong, conservative values. Just look at Ronald Reagan. Tongue
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« Reply #136 on: April 19, 2015, 10:06:59 PM »
« Edited: August 21, 2016, 11:53:02 PM by LeBron FitzGerald »

I really want to hope Grayson is Palin-level attention whoring here. I would be more than happy with him losing his House seat if he runs, but it's not worth the risk if the FDP is really stupid enough to back Grayson over Murphy in the primary.

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« Reply #137 on: April 20, 2015, 12:33:45 PM »
« Edited: April 21, 2015, 11:07:21 AM by publicunofficial »

Quick re-cap of the potential candidates on both sides:

GOP:
-Rep. Ron DeSantis (Will decide "in next few weeks", supported by Club for Growth, Freedomworks, Tea Party Express)
-Lt. Gov Carlos Lopez-Cantera ("95% there", won't announce till end of legislative session)
-Rep. David Jolly (Will decide around June or July, after his wedding)
-Rep. Dennis Ross (Reportedly "interested")
-Rep. Vern Buchanan (Interested)
-Former Sen. George LeMieux (Interested)
-Rep. Jeff Miller (Mentioned as possible candidate)
-Former Senate President Don Gaetz ("Looking at the race")
-Rep. Ted Yoho (Mentioned frequently, hasn't said anything)
-Rep. Curt Clawson (Won't say he isn't running, interested)
-Fmr. Attorney General Bill McCollum (Interested, leaning towards a run)
-Rep. Tom Rooney
-Former House Speaker Will Weatherford


Dems:
-Rep. Patrick Murphy
-Attorney Pam Keith
-Rep. Alan Grayson (Interested)


I'm predicting Patrick Murphy vs. Ron DeSantis for the final match-up.

Update: Tom Rooney is out..
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« Reply #138 on: April 20, 2015, 12:58:47 PM »

McCollum is interested? Congrats Murphy
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« Reply #139 on: April 20, 2015, 01:53:49 PM »

Patrick Murphy is possibly the luckiest man of the cycle.
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« Reply #140 on: April 20, 2015, 05:23:14 PM »

what about Ileana Ros-Lehtinen or one of the Diaz-Balarts? are they just house lifers? or would any of them ever seek higher office?

They are lifers and wouldn't make it out of the primary.
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« Reply #141 on: April 20, 2015, 06:17:49 PM »

what about Ileana Ros-Lehtinen or one of the Diaz-Balarts? are they just house lifers? or would any of them ever seek higher office?

They are lifers and wouldn't make it out of the primary.

Maxwell's probably right - IRL, at least, is definitely a House lifer. Lincoln Diaz-Balert, I believe, was among those considered for the Senate seat when Mel Martinez resigned, and the Diaz-Balerts yanked their endorsements from Charlie Crist when he appointed George LeMieux instead, but neither has shown an interest in higher office apart from that.
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« Reply #142 on: April 21, 2015, 07:53:22 AM »

Even if she had the ambition, IRL has some pro-gay votes which would doom her in a primary.
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« Reply #143 on: April 21, 2015, 07:59:03 AM »

Yeah, Ileana-Ros Lehtinen is not going to leave the House.  Republicans are going to want someone more conservative - this reality is why Ted Yoho is mentioned so much.  I mean, didn't Yoho take part in an attempted coup against John Boehner?
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« Reply #144 on: April 21, 2015, 08:19:37 AM »

Basically a run-down on all of the candidates

GOP
-Vern Buchanan (FL-16)
-Tom Rooney (FL-17)
-Ron DeSantis (FL-6)
-Jeff Miller (FL-1)
-Curt Clawson (FL-19)
-Tom Jolly (FL-13)
-Carlos Lopez-Cantera (LG)
-George LeMieux (Fmr. Sen.)

DEM
-Patrick Murphy (FL-18)
-Alan Grayson (FL-9)

No surprises if you've been actively reading this thread.

Wow, look at all the Florida congresscritters. It's like a party! I can't help but notice FL-23 isn't on this list. I have no idea who the representative for that district is, but whoever it is must be a massive loser.
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« Reply #145 on: April 21, 2015, 08:48:29 AM »

Basically a run-down on all of the candidates

GOP
-Vern Buchanan (FL-16)
-Tom Rooney (FL-17)
-Ron DeSantis (FL-6)
-Jeff Miller (FL-1)
-Curt Clawson (FL-19)
-Tom Jolly (FL-13)
-Carlos Lopez-Cantera (LG)
-George LeMieux (Fmr. Sen.)

DEM
-Patrick Murphy (FL-18)
-Alan Grayson (FL-9)

No surprises if you've been actively reading this thread.

Wow, look at all the Florida congresscritters. It's like a party! I can't help but notice FL-23 isn't on this list. I have no idea who the representative for that district is, but whoever it is must be a massive loser.

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« Reply #146 on: April 21, 2015, 02:37:31 PM »

Basically a run-down on all of the candidates

GOP
-Vern Buchanan (FL-16)
-Tom Rooney (FL-17)
-Ron DeSantis (FL-6)
-Jeff Miller (FL-1)
-Curt Clawson (FL-19)
-Tom Jolly (FL-13)
-Carlos Lopez-Cantera (LG)
-George LeMieux (Fmr. Sen.)

DEM
-Patrick Murphy (FL-18)
-Alan Grayson (FL-9)

No surprises if you've been actively reading this thread.

Wow, look at all the Florida congresscritters. It's like a party! I can't help but notice FL-23 isn't on this list. I have no idea who the representative for that district is, but whoever it is must be a massive loser.

Grin

She's not going to need your sh**tty ass Senate seat when she's elected as the next VPOTUS next November.
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« Reply #147 on: April 21, 2015, 02:55:13 PM »

Basically a run-down on all of the candidates

GOP
-Vern Buchanan (FL-16)
-Tom Rooney (FL-17)
-Ron DeSantis (FL-6)
-Jeff Miller (FL-1)
-Curt Clawson (FL-19)
-Tom Jolly (FL-13)
-Carlos Lopez-Cantera (LG)
-George LeMieux (Fmr. Sen.)

DEM
-Patrick Murphy (FL-18)
-Alan Grayson (FL-9)

No surprises if you've been actively reading this thread.

Wow, look at all the Florida congresscritters. It's like a party! I can't help but notice FL-23 isn't on this list. I have no idea who the representative for that district is, but whoever it is must be a massive loser.

Grin

She's not going to need your sh**tty ass Senate seat when she's elected as the next VPOTUS next November.
As if Clinton has any reason to put Schultz on the ticket:

- Can she lock down FL? Nope, she's only won election in a single congressional district. Thinking Schultz can lock down FL for Hillary is just as foolish as Republicans' 2012 belief that Ryan can lock down WI.

- Gender? Well, Hillary's a woman too, so that alone isn't enough for her to pick Schultz...

- Appeal to moderates? Nope, she's hated by independents and republicans.

- Appeal to liberals? Nope, some of them blame her for 2010/14.



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« Reply #148 on: April 21, 2015, 03:13:59 PM »

1. Swing State - Florida is the most important swing state, and if she wants to pick someone from that state, there are no statewide office holders except Nelson, who is 5 years older than Hillary. Schultz is the highest ranking Congresscritter otherwise.

2. The Jewish vote. Democrats are hemorrhaging the Jewish vote which is critical in the state.

3. Youth. Schultz is still relatively young which would balance out Hillary's age.

4. You have no idea who she'd appeal to because she's never run a statewide race. She's always done well in her district.

5. Cancer survivor. Excellent personal story of overcoming adversity.

6. If Lincoln Chafee wins the nomination, she'd be an excellent pick. Even waltermitty agrees.
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« Reply #149 on: April 21, 2015, 03:18:11 PM »

1. Swing State - Florida is the most important swing state, and if she wants to pick someone from that state, there are no statewide office holders except Nelson, who is 5 years older than Hillary. Schultz is the highest ranking Congresscritter otherwise.

2. The Jewish vote. Democrats are hemorrhaging the Jewish vote which is critical in the state.

3. Youth. Schultz is still relatively young which would balance out Hillary's age.

4. You have no idea who she'd appeal to because she's never run a statewide race. She's always done well in her district.

5. Cancer survivor. Excellent personal story of overcoming adversity.

6. If Lincoln Chafee wins the nomination, she'd be an excellent pick. Even waltermitty agrees.

LOLOL. Hillary can win without Florida without any problem at all.

Democrats already do well enough with the Jewish vote, Hillary doesn't need the help.

Her district is Safe D, she wouldn't lose there unless she turned out to be a serial killer.

Enough of the Chafee nonsense.
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