FL-SEN: Is Rubio about to bungle it?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Tbh Rubio, rather understandably seems to have given up on the Senate. Unlike Cruz or Paul he never used it to crusade his points, and he's not in the mould of a senate dealer.

Pretty much. Rubio has a shot in 2016 and a shot in 2020, but after that he is old news. Another dud of a GOP rising star, as BRTD has recently mentioned.

[Miles]

As if the field isn't crowded enough, Atwater might still end up running:

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Atwater's role seems to be a bad luck position for ambitious politicians. Before him came Alex Sink, who now has two pretty humiliating losses under her belt; and then Tom Gallagher who failed once to run for senate and four times for governor. The role was created from the merger of two roles. In one of these, Treasure (and a few other roles in the title) Gallagher was preceded by Bill Nelson (who escaped the curse) and Bill Gunter Jr who failed three times to run for Senate.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I'd be amazed if he ran. I don't think the current field is not anywhere close to being bad enough to require his entry.

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Ugh why is Grayson beating Murphy in the polls?

Yeah, he's more liberal, but if Democrats want a Democrat to win then just VOTE FOR MURPHY.

Agh

[Donerail]

Ugh why is Grayson beating Murphy in the polls?

Yeah, he's more liberal, but if Democrats want a Democrat to win then just VOTE FOR MURPHY.

Agh

It seems you haven't had much experience with the FDP.

[Free Bird]

Atwater sees the serious risk of losing the seat if he may be jumping in like this. It's like he knows he's the FLGOP's last resort trump card and is honoring that duty after realizing it won't be easy, which is why  he initially sat out.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Ugh why is Grayson beating Murphy in the polls?

Yeah, he's more liberal, but if Democrats want a Democrat to win then just VOTE FOR MURPHY.

Agh

The FDP doesn't understand and will never understand how to win. If Murphy is nominated and wins the general, it will be in spite of the incompetence of the FDP, not because of any actions they may take to help him in the GE.

[Skye]

Yeah, he's more conservative, but if Republicans want a Republican to win then just VOTE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE.

ftfy

[Maxwell]

Grayson is capitalizing on the Sanders surge, whether or not he actually stands with Sanders 100% of the time, he represents the same anti-establishment energy. I definitely see him winning the primary, in which case, bye bye general to whoever the Republican is.

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Ugh why is Grayson beating Murphy in the polls?

Yeah, he's more liberal, but if Democrats want a Democrat to win then just VOTE FOR MURPHY.

Agh

The FDP doesn't understand and will never understand how to win. If Murphy is nominated and wins the general, it will be in spite of the incompetence of the FDP, not because of any actions they may take to help him in the GE.

How does what I said not make sense? Murphy is much more electable than Grayson in the General Election (as shown by polling), so if Democrats in general want someone from their party to win that Senate seat, it is much more strategic to elect him in the primary.

[Miles]

McCollum will have a decision next week.

[The Other Castro]

Ugh why is Grayson beating Murphy in the polls?

Yeah, he's more liberal, but if Democrats want a Democrat to win then just VOTE FOR MURPHY.

Agh

The FDP doesn't understand and will never understand how to win. If Murphy is nominated and wins the general, it will be in spite of the incompetence of the FDP, not because of any actions they may take to help him in the GE.

How does what I said not make sense? Murphy is much more electable than Grayson in the General Election (as shown by polling), so if Democrats in general want someone from their party to win that Senate seat, it is much more strategic to elect him in the primary.

Florida Dems gonna Florida Dem. It's a futile task trying to find logic in their decisions.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

McCollum will have a decision next week.

I hope he doesn't run. His time passed nearly twenty years ago.

[windjammer]

Grayson would beat McCollum.

Are you serious? His challenger would be ALAN GRAYSON.

[tpfkaw]

Yeah, Alan Grayson is the one to beat (his wife).

[Maxwell]

Grayson is really the Democrat Akin. Not because of his ideology, but because he's just a ticking time bomb of dickish things to say, and his general baggage.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Florida dems, if they're smart need to recruit some other lefty hero to split the vote, or even undermine Grayson entirely.

Unfortunately as you may have noticed I said the phrase "Florida dems, if they're smart"

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Grayson is really the Democrat Akin. Not because of his ideology, but because he's just a ticking time bomb of dickish things to say, and his general baggage.

I mean, when you get to the point where the Democrat (Grayson) is so bad that I wouldn't even consider voting for him if I lived in the state...

[Donerail]

Grayson is capitalizing on the Sanders surge, whether or not he actually stands with Sanders 100% of the time, he represents the same anti-establishment energy. I definitely see him winning the primary, in which case, bye bye general to whoever the Republican is.

Yes, this is correct. I unliked a "Tampa Bay for Sanders" Facebook page after it changed its name to "Tampa Bay for Sanders & Grayson."

Grayson would beat McCollum.

Are you serious? His challenger would be ALAN GRAYSON.

I deleted the comment LOL. Seriously, though, Republicans shouldn't get too cocky if Grayson gets the nomination. They will have to fight hard to hold this seat, with or without Grayson. That being said, they would both lose to Atwater, one by 4 or 5 points, the other by 12 points.

I'd be most optimistic about our chances of beating notorious loser Bill McCollum compared to any other of the GOPers.

[windjammer]

Sjoyce honestly, who is more likely to be the dem nominee? I would say Grayson because florida dems are awful but I m not a specialist.

[windjammer]

Sjoyce honestly, who is more likely to be the dem nominee? I would say Grayson because florida dems are awful but I m not a specialist.

[The Other Castro]

Libertarian candidate Augustus Sol Invictus admits to sacrificing goat and drinking its blood.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/gone-viral/os-ap-florida-senate-sacrificing-goat-20151005-story.html

[Dereich]

Libertarian candidate Augustus Sol Invictus admits to sacrificing goat and drinking its blood.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/gone-viral/os-ap-florida-senate-sacrificing-goat-20151005-story.html

Damn, just missed on getting this out first. It's such an amazingly Florida news story.

Sjoyce honestly, who is more likely to be the dem nominee? I would say Grayson because florida dems are awful but I m not a specialist.

Not him, but as an admittedly biased Florida poster I'm still saying Grayson. The FL Dems original sin is not understanding the unique nature of the Florida electorate. They count on demographics and Republican mistakes to carry them to wins without any need for them to regulate their behavior themselves. While this works in other states (and with Bill Nelson, who has the advantage of many many GOP mistakes and is himself a good politician) in Florida it just means getting far outperformed by savvier GOP campaigns. For me, it all translates into the FL Dems making lazy and poor decisions when it comes to electibility, which is why I've always considered Murphy doomed.

In this election, Greyson is well known and well liked by large parts of the liberal primary electorate. Murphy is not well known outside his district and political watchers. He doesn't have any signature accomplishments or benefits that I can think of and electibility isn't a primary concern for primary voters; given all that and it being a presidential year (with low information voters who only know Grayson and perhaps people thinking the Presidential election gives more leeway with ideology) I've seen nothing which would put Murphy over the top without a world-class campaign.

[Miles]

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