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Indy Texas
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« on: March 23, 2015, 10:39:06 PM »
Barack Obama (U.S.) and Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel) - obviously very visible recently

Richard Nixon (U.S.) and Indira Gandhi (India) - the G-rated version involves him habitually referring to her as "that witch"

Richard Nixon (U.S.) and Pierre Trudeau (Canada) - of Nixon's tirades against him, Trudeau would say, "I've been called worse things by better people."

What are some others?
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 10:52:19 PM »
Bill Clinton (US) and John Major (UK)
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2015, 11:08:20 PM »
Quote from: Indy Texas on March 23, 2015, 10:39:06 PM
Barack Obama (U.S.) and Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel) - obviously very visible recently

Richard Nixon (U.S.) and Indira Gandhi (India) - the G-rated version involves him habitually referring to her as "that witch"

Richard Nixon (U.S.) and Pierre Trudeau (Canada) - of Nixon's tirades against him, Trudeau would say, "I've been called worse things by better people."

What are some others?

I'm not sure we can count the US and India as friendly or allies during this time. Under Nixon, American policy started to more evidently 'tilt' towards Pakistan, which caused India to deviate from its non-aligned policy in favor of a shift towards the Soviet Union.
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2015, 06:30:52 AM »
I've never understood why, but yes, the US have long had a rather antagonistic relationship with India. That's the reason Pakistan ended up as an "ally" even though that makes absolutely no sense from an ideological standpoint.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2015, 09:06:08 AM »
Jimmy Carter and Helmut Schmidt didn't go along very well and SPIEGEL ONLINE had an English-language article on that a couple of years ago:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/no-love-lost-carter-diary-reveals-rocky-relationship-with-german-chancellor-schmidt-a-721449.html

Dubya/G. Schröder may count as well even though that largely happened due to Schröder's face-heel turn, going from strongly supporting military intervention in Afghanistan to strongly opposing military intervention in Iraq within 12-month-timespan or so.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2015, 09:11:45 AM »
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Jimmy Carter and Helmut Schmidt didn't go along very well and SPIEGEL ONLINE had an English-language article on that a couple of years ago:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/no-love-lost-carter-diary-reveals-rocky-relationship-with-german-chancellor-schmidt-a-721449.html

Dubya/G. Schröder may count as well even though that largely happened due to Schröder's face-heel turn, going from strongly supporting military intervention in Afghanistan to strongly opposing military intervention in Iraq within 12-month-timespan or so.

Wasn't a face-heel turn at all. It was two completely different situations that did not warrant the same reaction.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2015, 09:18:15 AM »
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on March 24, 2015, 09:11:45 AM
Quote from: I want my friggin hoverboard! on March 24, 2015, 09:06:08 AM
Jimmy Carter and Helmut Schmidt didn't go along very well and SPIEGEL ONLINE had an English-language article on that a couple of years ago:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/no-love-lost-carter-diary-reveals-rocky-relationship-with-german-chancellor-schmidt-a-721449.html

Dubya/G. Schröder may count as well even though that largely happened due to Schröder's face-heel turn, going from strongly supporting military intervention in Afghanistan to strongly opposing military intervention in Iraq within 12-month-timespan or so.

Wasn't a face-heel turn at all. It was two completely different situations that did not warrant the same reaction.

Sorry, should have written perceived face-heel turn...
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2015, 09:54:02 AM »
Some Canadian ones: Diefenbaker-Kennedy, Trudeau-Reagan, Trudeau-Thatcher.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2015, 09:59:23 AM »
Chretien-Bush?
Harper-Obama?
St-Laurent-Eisenhower (as noted by the Simpsons)
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2015, 11:14:07 AM »
It was only very brief, but the relationship between Douglas Home and LBJ was notoriously toxic.
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2015, 11:18:47 AM »
Though what's hard not to notice here is that like nine times out of ten the issue is ninety per cent personal, as it clearly is between Obama and Bibi, even if there may then be policy/strategy/whatever consequences.
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2015, 11:22:09 AM »
Seems like Trudeau and his ego couldn't get along with anyone...
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2015, 11:27:49 AM »
Speaking of LBJ, he didn't get along with Pearson at all:

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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2015, 11:38:15 AM »
Yes, certain names are going to come up a lot...
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2015, 12:26:44 PM »
Quote from: Antonio V on March 24, 2015, 06:30:52 AM
I've never understood why, but yes, the US have long had a rather antagonistic relationship with India. That's the reason Pakistan ended up as an "ally" even though that makes absolutely no sense from an ideological standpoint.

I think the reason is that India joined the Non-Aligned Movement and sought a good relationship with the USSR. I might be wrong (far from being an expert on that topic).
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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2015, 01:03:55 PM »
Quote from: Velasco on March 24, 2015, 12:26:44 PM
Quote from: Antonio V on March 24, 2015, 06:30:52 AM
I've never understood why, but yes, the US have long had a rather antagonistic relationship with India. That's the reason Pakistan ended up as an "ally" even though that makes absolutely no sense from an ideological standpoint.

I think the reason is that India joined the Non-Aligned Movement and sought a good relationship with the USSR. I might be wrong (far from being an expert on that topic).

Basically. India remained non-aligned, which greatly annoyed the United States. On the other hand, Pakistan went out of its way to present itself as anti-Communist. The United States aligned with Pakistan in order to maintain some sort of presence in South Asia, while Pakistan thought it needed to align itself with a superpower to ensure protection from India.
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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2015, 01:21:21 PM »
Pretty sure Obama wasn't fond of Sarkozy, or at least he found him to be exasperating and childish.
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2015, 01:22:22 PM »
Quote from: Χασεμιτικού on March 24, 2015, 01:21:21 PM
Pretty sure Obama wasn't fond of Sarkozy, or at least he found him to be exasperating and childish.

Well at least they revelled in their mutual hatred of bibi
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2015, 01:24:51 PM »
Quote from: Χασεμιτικού on March 24, 2015, 01:21:21 PM
Pretty sure Obama wasn't fond of Sarkozy, or at least he found him to be exasperating and childish.

Yeah. And Sarkozy in return resented Obama's celebrity status, which he felt had overshadowed his own aura (lol).
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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2015, 01:37:27 PM »
Carter didn't like Margaret Thatcher is the last year of his term, either.
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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2015, 01:40:30 PM »
It would be a stretch to call it one of the worst but it is no secret that the relationship between Kohl and Thatcher wasn't brilliant, to put it mildly.
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2015, 01:45:15 PM »
Quote from: ZuWo on March 24, 2015, 01:40:30 PM
It would be a stretch to call it one of the worst but it is no secret that the relationship between Kohl and Thatcher wasn't brilliant, to put it mildly.

Yeah, Kohl seems to have had a pretty good taste in women. Wink
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2015, 02:04:27 PM »
Angela Merkel and Alexis Tsipras.
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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2015, 03:25:56 PM »
Quote from: HagridOfTheDeep on March 24, 2015, 11:22:09 AM
Seems like Trudeau and his ego couldn't get along with anyone...

I think he was quite friendly to Fidel Castro, to the point he came to his funeral.
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2015, 09:33:58 AM »
Quote from: MaxQue on March 24, 2015, 03:25:56 PM
Quote from: HagridOfTheDeep on March 24, 2015, 11:22:09 AM
Seems like Trudeau and his ego couldn't get along with anyone...

I think he was quite friendly to Fidel Castro, to the point he came to his funeral.

Yep:
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