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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2015, 01:56:11 PM »

Here is his own FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/andreas.lubitz.3

It was deactivated for a short time, but now it has been reactivated.
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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2015, 02:00:10 PM »

Solarstorm why the hell have you changed your username to the flight number and put a pic of the death count in your sig jesus christ
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« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2015, 03:48:38 PM »

The co-pilot's friends told Der Spiegel he battled depression in 2009 and took a 6-month leave from training. While he passed all physical and psych tests, German law prohibits Lufthansa from obtaining his previous medical history.
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« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2015, 03:58:53 PM »

Andreas Lubitz was probably a Muslim convert who had been recruited by the CIA to carry out a false-flag operation intended to implicate Vladimir Putin. Tongue

Either that or he was simply mentally disturbed. We do know that his initial pilot training was interrupted for as of now undisclosed medical reasons. Worst case is that Germanwings faces a lawsuit because they let a former psychiatric patient fly a plane or something like that.

Joking or not, Putin is the only person who would suggest something like that.
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« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2015, 04:06:57 PM »

The co-pilot's friends told Der Spiegel he battled depression in 2009 and took a 6-month leave from training. While he passed all physical and psych tests, German law prohibits Lufthansa from obtaining his previous medical history.

Lubitz's former classmates told reporters in Germany that the 28-year-old temporarily left pilot training due to "burnout-syndrom" [sic], ...

Why is the adverb "sic" used in that sentence? I know what it means, but I don't understand the usage here.
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« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2015, 04:08:18 PM »

Solarstorm why the hell have you changed your username to the flight number and put a pic of the death count in your sig jesus christ
I'm sure the families of the victims will appreciate his gesture....
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« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2015, 04:27:02 PM »

Solarstorm why the hell have you changed your username to the flight number and put a pic of the death count in your sig jesus christ
I'm sure the families of the victims will appreciate his gesture....

What is the ellipsis at the end indicating?
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« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2015, 04:34:30 PM »
« Edited: March 26, 2015, 06:08:03 PM by Governor Simfan34 »

The co-pilot's friends told Der Spiegel he battled depression in 2009 and took a 6-month leave from training. While he passed all physical and psych tests, German law prohibits Lufthansa from obtaining his previous medical history.

Lubitz's former classmates told reporters in Germany that the 28-year-old temporarily left pilot training due to "burnout-syndrom" [sic], ...

Why is the adverb "sic" used in that sentence? I know what it means, but I don't understand the usage here.

"Syndrom" is not a word.
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« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2015, 05:38:40 PM »

The co-pilot's friends told Der Spiegel he battled depression in 2009 and took a 6-month leave from training. While he passed all physical and psych tests, German law prohibits Lufthansa from obtaining his previous medical history.

Lubitz's former classmates told reporters in Germany that the 28-year-old temporarily left pilot training due to "burnout-syndrom" [sic], ...

Why is the adverb "sic" used in that sentence? I know what it means, but I don't understand the usage here.

"Syndrom" is not a word

More precisely, it's not a word in English.
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« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2015, 10:37:19 PM »

The co-pilot's friends told Der Spiegel he battled depression in 2009 and took a 6-month leave from training. While he passed all physical and psych tests, German law prohibits Lufthansa from obtaining his previous medical history.

Lubitz's former classmates told reporters in Germany that the 28-year-old temporarily left pilot training due to "burnout-syndrom" [sic], ...

Why is the adverb "sic" used in that sentence? I know what it means, but I don't understand the usage here.

"Syndrom" is not a word

More precisely, it's not a word in English.
Or perhaps it's a complaint about the use of Denglisch.  Or the fact that in German it should be "Burnout-Syndrom" rather than "burnout-syndrom"
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« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2015, 09:48:24 AM »

Way too many articles from right wings = OMGZ HE'Z MUZLIM THAT'S ANSWERS IT !!!!111
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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2015, 10:20:02 AM »

Turns out he wasn't even supposed to be on that plane. A psychiatrist had put him on medical leave. But the co-pilot ignored it and - obviously - didn't inform his airline about it either.

The investigators were unable to find a suicide note in his appartment, but apparently they discovered several documents outlining the co-pilot's medical condition... whatever that condition was.
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« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2015, 11:08:07 AM »

I wasn't going to say anything, but I actually did know someone on board. We weren't particularly close - facebook friends, but haven't seen each other for about 4 years.

Obviously the whole thing is horrible, but I'm just as uncomfortable with the public griefgasm.
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« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2015, 07:18:04 AM »
« Edited: March 28, 2015, 07:34:06 AM by Charlotte Hebdo »

A former girlfriend (for 7 years) of Andreas Lubitz has told Bid, that he long time ago had planned to perform a spectacular and unforgettable action that would get his name in the history books. Last year had said to her:

- One day I will do something that will change the system, and then everyone will know and remember my name.

She says he was a troubled person and that she left him because of his personal problems and erratic behavior, which scared her.

He deliberately concealed information about his illness for his employer, but had previously spent years receiving treatment for a mental diagnoses, and in 2009 he had to interrupt his pilot training temporarily because of severe depression.

Sad business all around.
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« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2015, 12:14:29 PM »

Obviously depressed people and people who say strange things once should be banned from doing anything ever.
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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2015, 12:31:31 PM »
« Edited: March 28, 2015, 01:47:09 PM by Charlotte Hebdo »

Obviously depressed people and people who say strange things once should be banned from doing anything ever.

According to her he often had nightmares and woke up screaming "lets rush" and there was a string of other "erratic behaviour" (which is why she got scared of him). It does not sound as if those were trivial things. It was enough to scare her out of a serious long term relationship.

He also had an (undisclosed) mental diagnosis and hid it from his employer. Not generally in favour of discrimination, but people who are mentally ill should not be allowed to fly a (commercial) plane.

(even if the source is Bild, this seems like a legit interview with a sincere and honest woman)
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« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2015, 12:51:07 PM »

Obviously depressed people and people who say strange things once should be banned from doing anything ever.

According to her he often woke up screaming "lets rush" and there was a string of other "erratic behaviour" (which is why she got scared of him). It does not sound as if those were trivial things. It was enough to scare her out of a serious long term relationship.

He also had an (undisclosed) mental diagnosis and hid it from his employer. Not generally in favour of discrimination, but people who are mentally ill should not be allowed to fly a (commercial) plane.

(even if the source is Bild, this seems like a legit interview with a sincere and honest woman)

Everyone looks strange once they've piloted a plane into the side of a mountain in a suicide mission. Doesn't necessarily mean their behaviour was meaningful.

As for the diagnosis, I'd need to know exactly what it was before further comment. 'Mental illness' is a wide enough net that soon only middle aged men with mortgages and 'who really dig the Beatles' will be allowed to fly planes, if that is the criteria.
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« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2015, 01:01:49 PM »
« Edited: March 29, 2015, 04:36:00 AM by Charlotte Hebdo »

Obviously depressed people and people who say strange things once should be banned from doing anything ever.

According to her he often woke up screaming "lets rush" and there was a string of other "erratic behaviour" (which is why she got scared of him). It does not sound as if those were trivial things. It was enough to scare her out of a serious long term relationship.

He also had an (undisclosed) mental diagnosis and hid it from his employer. Not generally in favour of discrimination, but people who are mentally ill should not be allowed to fly a (commercial) plane.

(even if the source is Bild, this seems like a legit interview with a sincere and honest woman)

Everyone looks strange once they've piloted a plane into the side of a mountain in a suicide mission. Doesn't necessarily mean their behaviour was meaningful.

As for the diagnosis, I'd need to know exactly what it was before further comment. 'Mental illness' is a wide enough net that soon only middle aged men with mortgages and 'who really dig the Beatles' will be allowed to fly planes, if that is the criteria.

This guy looked a bit more than strange years before committing suicide.

Hated his employer and had rage fits over employment conditions and wages. Could completely change personality when he spoke about it and took his rage out on the girl friend - locking her up and shouting abuse at her. Seems to have been an act of revenge against the company.
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« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2015, 11:31:29 PM »

7 years? Either she's also insane or there's something I'm not getting here. How did he manage for so long?
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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2015, 01:01:06 AM »

Lubitz sought treatment for vision problems that may have jeopardized his ability to continue working as a pilot, two officials with knowledge of the investigation said Saturday.

He and his family went on some excursions to that Alpine region with the Montabaur glider club between 1996 and 2003, the operator of the Sisteron airfield confirmed.

Meanwhile, according to Sunday paper Bild am Sonntag a DNA analysis proved that dead body remains of his have been found.
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« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2015, 04:11:03 PM »

The transcript about the last minutes of flight 4u9525 have been leaked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkpUAIa-_EM
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« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2015, 05:58:58 PM »

Obviously depressed people and people who say strange things once should be banned from doing anything ever.

According to her he often woke up screaming "lets rush" and there was a string of other "erratic behaviour" (which is why she got scared of him). It does not sound as if those were trivial things. It was enough to scare her out of a serious long term relationship.

He also had an (undisclosed) mental diagnosis and hid it from his employer. Not generally in favour of discrimination, but people who are mentally ill should not be allowed to fly a (commercial) plane.

(even if the source is Bild, this seems like a legit interview with a sincere and honest woman)

Everyone looks strange once they've piloted a plane into the side of a mountain in a suicide mission. Doesn't necessarily mean their behaviour was meaningful.

As for the diagnosis, I'd need to know exactly what it was before further comment. 'Mental illness' is a wide enough net that soon only middle aged men with mortgages and 'who really dig the Beatles' will be allowed to fly planes, if that is the criteria.

This guy looked a bit more than strange years before committing suicide.

Hated his employer and had rage fits over employment conditions and wages. Could completely change personality when he spoke about it and took his rage out on the girl friend - locking her up and shouting abuse at her. Seems to have been an act of revenge against the company.

Clearly the first person in history who hated his job, raged over low pay and abused his girlfriend. Obviously should have been sent to the nearest psych ward - a disaster waiting to happen.
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« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2015, 06:16:11 PM »

Obviously depressed people and people who say strange things once should be banned from doing anything ever.

According to her he often woke up screaming "lets rush" and there was a string of other "erratic behaviour" (which is why she got scared of him). It does not sound as if those were trivial things. It was enough to scare her out of a serious long term relationship.

He also had an (undisclosed) mental diagnosis and hid it from his employer. Not generally in favour of discrimination, but people who are mentally ill should not be allowed to fly a (commercial) plane.

(even if the source is Bild, this seems like a legit interview with a sincere and honest woman)

Everyone looks strange once they've piloted a plane into the side of a mountain in a suicide mission. Doesn't necessarily mean their behaviour was meaningful.

As for the diagnosis, I'd need to know exactly what it was before further comment. 'Mental illness' is a wide enough net that soon only middle aged men with mortgages and 'who really dig the Beatles' will be allowed to fly planes, if that is the criteria.

This guy looked a bit more than strange years before committing suicide.

Hated his employer and had rage fits over employment conditions and wages. Could completely change personality when he spoke about it and took his rage out on the girl friend - locking her up and shouting abuse at her. Seems to have been an act of revenge against the company.

Clearly the first person in history who hated his job, raged over low pay and abused his girlfriend. Obviously should have been sent to the nearest psych ward - a disaster waiting to happen.

You conveniently ignore the personality split part and it is also a very callous way to discuss abuse of women. You can be ironic all you want, but if you add it all up there were lots of signs that this guy was unfit to be trusted with something like flying a commercial plane and being responsible for the safety of hundreds of people.
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« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2015, 08:08:34 PM »

Obviously depressed people and people who say strange things once should be banned from doing anything ever.

According to her he often woke up screaming "lets rush" and there was a string of other "erratic behaviour" (which is why she got scared of him). It does not sound as if those were trivial things. It was enough to scare her out of a serious long term relationship.

He also had an (undisclosed) mental diagnosis and hid it from his employer. Not generally in favour of discrimination, but people who are mentally ill should not be allowed to fly a (commercial) plane.

(even if the source is Bild, this seems like a legit interview with a sincere and honest woman)

Everyone looks strange once they've piloted a plane into the side of a mountain in a suicide mission. Doesn't necessarily mean their behaviour was meaningful.

As for the diagnosis, I'd need to know exactly what it was before further comment. 'Mental illness' is a wide enough net that soon only middle aged men with mortgages and 'who really dig the Beatles' will be allowed to fly planes, if that is the criteria.

This guy looked a bit more than strange years before committing suicide.

Hated his employer and had rage fits over employment conditions and wages. Could completely change personality when he spoke about it and took his rage out on the girl friend - locking her up and shouting abuse at her. Seems to have been an act of revenge against the company.

Clearly the first person in history who hated his job, raged over low pay and abused his girlfriend. Obviously should have been sent to the nearest psych ward - a disaster waiting to happen.

You conveniently ignore the personality split part and it is also a very callous way to discuss abuse of women. You can be ironic all you want, but if you add it all up there were lots of signs that this guy was unfit to be trusted with something like flying a commercial plane and being responsible for the safety of hundreds of people.

Forget plane, he shouldn't have been driving a Segway.
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« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2015, 08:15:39 PM »

Obviously depressed people and people who say strange things once should be banned from doing anything ever.

According to her he often woke up screaming "lets rush" and there was a string of other "erratic behaviour" (which is why she got scared of him). It does not sound as if those were trivial things. It was enough to scare her out of a serious long term relationship.

He also had an (undisclosed) mental diagnosis and hid it from his employer. Not generally in favour of discrimination, but people who are mentally ill should not be allowed to fly a (commercial) plane.

(even if the source is Bild, this seems like a legit interview with a sincere and honest woman)

Everyone looks strange once they've piloted a plane into the side of a mountain in a suicide mission. Doesn't necessarily mean their behaviour was meaningful.

As for the diagnosis, I'd need to know exactly what it was before further comment. 'Mental illness' is a wide enough net that soon only middle aged men with mortgages and 'who really dig the Beatles' will be allowed to fly planes, if that is the criteria.

This guy looked a bit more than strange years before committing suicide.

Hated his employer and had rage fits over employment conditions and wages. Could completely change personality when he spoke about it and took his rage out on the girl friend - locking her up and shouting abuse at her. Seems to have been an act of revenge against the company.

Clearly the first person in history who hated his job, raged over low pay and abused his girlfriend. Obviously should have been sent to the nearest psych ward - a disaster waiting to happen.

You conveniently ignore the personality split part and it is also a very callous way to discuss abuse of women. You can be ironic all you want, but if you add it all up there were lots of signs that this guy was unfit to be trusted with something like flying a commercial plane and being responsible for the safety of hundreds of people.

And I assume the girlfriend went forward to the police, a mental health professional or the airline company which her concerns... which might have led to something being done (or not?).
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