Least Welcome in Their Party?

[Rockefeller GOP]

I know many of you who are very much to the left on the political spectrum view the Democrats as a centrist or maybe even center-right party on economics, but to make this more interesting, let's think of it in terms of the "generic" political spectrum (i.e., what the anchors you all hate on cable news channels would use to describe politicians, LOL).

[RFayette]

Tossup between Fiscally Liberal Republican and Socially Conservative Democrat

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Socially liberal Republicans and it isn't even close.

[Rockefeller GOP]

Socially liberal Republicans and it isn't even close.

There seem to be a heck of a lot more socially liberal Republicans in elected office (Collins, Baker, Rauner, Sandoval, etc.) than socially conservative Democrats.  If you're talking strictly Presidential primaries, I might agree.

[Mr. Smith]

The party of "read my lips, no new taxes?" allowing a fiscal liberal?  Fat chance.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

'Fiscally liberal' isn't a thing. 'Fiscally conservative' is an advertising slogan. Both terms should DIAF immediately.

[Mr. Illini]

In national politics, it would be the fiscally liberal Republican.

In state and local politics, all of these are represented in various areas of the country.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Ironically, taking the term 'fiscally conservative' logically, one might say that given the GOP's devotion to supply-side economics, 'fiscal liberals' (ugh) are more than welcome in the ropublican tent.

[Associate Justice PiT]

'Fiscally liberal' isn't a thing. 'Fiscally conservative' is an advertising slogan. Both terms should DIAF immediately.

     What's a good alternative, though? Otherwise people will say economically liberal/conservative, and describing the Democrats as economically liberal vis a vis the Republicans is lolworthy.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

'Economically left-wing' and 'economically right-wing' should do. (Or even better avoiding summing up complicated differences in ideology with pithy slogans, and abandoning simplistic labels Wholesale)

Fiscal conservative is a meaningless term. Most leftists could probably describe themselves that way if they wanted to - seeing as many want punitive and high taxes on land to overcome budget shortfalls. I really wouldn't bat an eyelid if TNF called himself a fiscal conservative.

[TDAS04]

Option 1.

[IceSpear]

Fiscally liberal Republican is least welcome, followed by SoCon Democrat, then social liberal Republican, then fiscally conservative Democrat.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Option 1, obviously.

[Goldwater]

Option 1, obviously.

[Citizen Hats]

'Economically left-wing' and 'economically right-wing' should do. (Or even better avoiding summing up complicated differences in ideology with pithy slogans, and abandoning simplistic labels Wholesale)

Fiscal conservative is a meaningless term. Most leftists could probably describe themselves that way if they wanted to - seeing as many want punitive and high taxes on land to overcome budget shortfalls. I really wouldn't bat an eyelid if TNF called himself a fiscal conservative.

I would argue that 'fiscal conservatism' is a confusion of various meanings of the term 'conservative'.  Properly, fiscal conservatism should be in the same category of usages as when someone says they 'budget conservatively' or 'conservative accounting' or 'a conservative forcast'  in so far as one makes decisions about the future with a high-margin for error or uncertainty.  This usage is then appropriated by political conservatives in order to make a claim about themselves that is not necessarily true. 

Unfortunately, this process has rendered the term politically useless

[Njall]

Fiscally liberal Republican

[AggregateDemand]

Socially Conservative Democrats get ignored, but they aren't unwelcome. Fiscally Conservative Democrat = higher taxes, which is perfect for tax-and-spend platforms. Socially Liberal Republicans are nearly half of the party so the big tent can't afford to dismiss them.

Fiscally Liberal Republicans, on the other hand, are the pariahs of modern politics. They're either HW irrelevant, or they're neoliberal Romneyians. Regardless of their phylum, neither is capable of defeating tax and spend Democrats because they aren't hateful enough to attract conservatives and they are too business-like to attract free-spirited independents. As a result, we end up with higher spending and lower tax revenue. The Machiavellian spawn of LBJ find endless amusement in this outcome because it saps the electorate of the will to live, which paves the way for social democracy.

[Thunderbird is the word]

I'd say socially liberal Republican and Socially conservative Democrat are about a draw, though possibly a slight advantage on Socially liberal Democrat since I think that the GOP is gradually moving in the direction of surrendering on Gay Marriage.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

by FAR option 1.

[RINO Tom]

Keep in mind that this forum (and therefore the Democrats and Republicans that its members interact with) is a lot younger than America in general, and especially primary voters.  I think fiscal issues matter most in the "real world," and so I'll answer one of those.  Given that the Reagan-era GOP has largely dictated the fiscal debate for decades - leading to more fiscal moderates in the Democratic Party - I'll say that a fiscal liberal in the GOP is the least welcome.  I can't imagine a decade in which a "fiscally liberal" Republican (or more appropriately, an economic populist/pro-union/"anti-business"/etc. Republican) candidate would have not been the least welcome...

[Miles]

Tossup between Fiscally Liberal Republican and Socially Conservative Democrat

Easily the former of those. I've had no problems feeling 'welcomed' from other Democrats.

[RINO Tom]

Tossup between Fiscally Liberal Republican and Socially Conservative Democrat

Easily the former of those. I've had no problems feeling 'welcomed' from other Democrats.

I haven't sufficiently stalked your posts (), but it doesn't seem like you advertise your social conservatism nearly as much as your fiscal populism.

[Miles]

^ Fair, but at Democratic Party events I've been to, I've introduced myself as pro-life, pro-gun, etc. when we discussed policy and it hasn't cost me anything haha True, I emphasize those less, but I guess it varies some.

[H. Ross Peron]

1, 4, 3, 2

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Fiscally liberal Republicans have been in vogue since Reagan.