Ithaca College SGA passes bill for online reporting of microaggressions

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Dumb, dumb, dumb. Anyway, the "tumblr" generation is a small minority even within its own generation (they've always been around really, like redpill - but tech has given them a platform to be more visible). Polls from 2014 show 18-24 year olds actually shifting sharply Republican.

Yeah, all the fears about them eventually taking over are overstated. However, the problem is they're loud and aggressive enough to seem like a majority and cow institutions to their will, regardless of their actual small numbers.

The SGA members are elected by the student body to represent them.  Only of them voted against this. That is concerning.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Dumb, dumb, dumb. Anyway, the "tumblr" generation is a small minority even within its own generation (they've always been around really, like redpill - but tech has given them a platform to be more visible). Polls from 2014 show 18-24 year olds actually shifting sharply Republican.

Yeah, all the fears about them eventually taking over are overstated. However, the problem is they're loud and aggressive enough to seem like a majority and cow institutions to their will, regardless of their actual small numbers.

The SGA members are elected by the student body to represent them.  Only of them voted against this. That is concerning.

To be fair, this is how deliberative bodies tend to work, particularly ones that are neither high-profile nor highly polarized. Most people will default to the principle of social proof when they lack another reference point.

Good point. Still, it is worrying.

[SteveRogers]

Dumb, dumb, dumb. Anyway, the "tumblr" generation is a small minority even within its own generation (they've always been around really, like redpill - but tech has given them a platform to be more visible). Polls from 2014 show 18-24 year olds actually shifting sharply Republican.

Yeah, all the fears about them eventually taking over are overstated. However, the problem is they're loud and aggressive enough to seem like a majority and cow institutions to their will, regardless of their actual small numbers.

The SGA members are elected by the student body to represent them.  Only of them voted against this. That is concerning.

I'm guessing no more than 15 percent of the student body voted for this assembly to represent them. And for those who did vote, the political ideology of candidates doesn't tend to play a huge role in student government elections.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I tend to agree with Shua that it's still a bit worrying. Beet and others can constantly say that people like this are a minority, but it doesn't mean much when in their spheres of influence they still truck along. If you sat most people down and asked them to speak seriously on s**t like this they would tell you it's over the line and likely to be fraught with needless complications but it's only going to actually stop when more people speak up about it.

A problem with these situations is that a lot of people on the Left turn a blind eye to overreach like this as being well-meaning and excuse them for still being on the "right side" even if what they're doing in the moment is dumb. There are a lot of social justice types who do or say fundamentally illiberal (or just plain stupid) things but are not criticized much for it from the Left because a lot of hacks are more interested in defending from mockery of right-wingers that any criticism at all suddenly becomes an attack.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Dumb, dumb, dumb. Anyway, the "tumblr" generation is a small minority even within its own generation (they've always been around really, like redpill - but tech has given them a platform to be more visible). Polls from 2014 show 18-24 year olds actually shifting sharply Republican.

Yeah, all the fears about them eventually taking over are overstated. However, the problem is they're loud and aggressive enough to seem like a majority and cow institutions to their will, regardless of their actual small numbers.

The SGA members are elected by the student body to represent them.  Only of them voted against this. That is concerning.

I'm guessing no more than 15 percent of the student body voted for this assembly to represent them. And for those who did vote, the political ideology of candidates doesn't tend to play a huge role in student government elections.

maybe those who run for SGA are disproportionately clueless?  I don't know.

[© tweed]

Given that the Ivy League has a way of producing the next generation of the American ruling class

Ithaca College is not Cornell.  Cornell is Ivy League, Ithaca College is not.

Ah, my apologies. Thank you for correcting me there. Must have gotten the two mixed up.

you got mixed up because both schools are located in Ithaca.

[Donerail]

Given that the Ivy League has a way of producing the next generation of the American ruling class

Ithaca College is not Cornell.  Cornell is Ivy League, Ithaca College is not.

Ah, my apologies. Thank you for correcting me there. Must have gotten the two mixed up.

Yeah, this is something that seems to be much more prevalent at the small liberal arts colleges than at the big research unis like Cornell. Not the sort of stuff that'll affect that many investment bankers and politicians.

[SteveRogers]

I tend to agree with Shua that it's still a bit worrying. Beet and others can constantly say that people like this are a minority, but it doesn't mean much when in their spheres of influence they still truck along. If you sat most people down and asked them to speak seriously on s**t like this they would tell you it's over the line and likely to be fraught with needless complications but it's only going to actually stop when more people speak up about it.

A problem with these situations is that a lot of people on the Left turn a blind eye to overreach like this as being well-meaning and excuse them for still being on the "right side" even if what they're doing in the moment is dumb. There are a lot of social justice types who do or say fundamentally illiberal (or just plain stupid) things but are not criticized much for it from the Left because a lot of hacks are more interested in defending from mockery of right-wingers that any criticism at all suddenly becomes an attack.

If this overreach had been committed by a real government I wouldn't be turning a blind eye to it.

[H. Ross Peron]

What's up with student governments being dominated by Social Justice Warrior types?

Also I find it rather odd our leftist friends on this forum believes this is a liberal disease-many of these SJW types are far closer to leftism (albeit the New Left/Frankfurt School) than liberalism in politics-ie most of them are anticapitalist, generally socialistic on actual economic issues (granted a good portion of them don't know s*** about that topic), consider Angela Davis, Black Panthers etc. to be heroes and opposed to most forms of foreign intervention.

[© tweed]

What's up with student governments being dominated by Social Justice Warrior types?

it may just be that we don't pay any attention to non-SJW behavior by student governments.  no poster here had ever thought once about the Ithaca College SGA before this provocative story.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

What's up with student governments being dominated by Social Justice Warrior types?

it may just be that we don't pay any attention to non-SJW behavior by student governments.  no poster here had ever thought once about the Ithaca College SGA before this provocative story.

Working with someone within SG that many would consider a "Social Justice Warrior" type, I can tell you that student government definitely is not dominated by aforementioned people, even in a place like Berkeley.

[© tweed]

What's up with student governments being dominated by Social Justice Warrior types?

it may just be that we don't pay any attention to non-SJW behavior by student governments.  no poster here had ever thought once about the Ithaca College SGA before this provocative story.

Working with someone within SG that many would consider a "Social Justice Warrior" type, I can tell you that student government definitely is not dominated by aforementioned people, even in a place like Berkeley.

right.  at Cornell we even had a little bit of 'real power'; Cornell is governed by 64 trustees, with a grant total of 2 (two) elected by the students: one elected by the undergrads, one elected by the grads.  the winners were always very resume-conscious, well-adapted-to-suits-and-ties types.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

What's up with student governments being dominated by Social Justice Warrior types?

it may just be that we don't pay any attention to non-SJW behavior by student governments.  no poster here had ever thought once about the Ithaca College SGA before this provocative story.

Working with someone within SG that many would consider a "Social Justice Warrior" type, I can tell you that student government definitely is not dominated by aforementioned people, even in a place like Berkeley.

right.  at Cornell we even had a little bit of 'real power'; Cornell is governed by 64 trustees, with a grant total of 2 (two) elected by the students: one elected by the undergrads, one elected by the grads.  the winners were always very resume-conscious, well-adapted-to-suits-and-ties types.

The UCs work a bit differently with different wings handling different parts. Being a public university does give us an actual reason to have a lobbying arm which actually works quite effectively (the "yes means yes" statute, for example).

[H. Ross Peron]

What's up with student governments being dominated by Social Justice Warrior types?

it may just be that we don't pay any attention to non-SJW behavior by student governments.  no poster here had ever thought once about the Ithaca College SGA before this provocative story.

Working with someone within SG that many would consider a "Social Justice Warrior" type, I can tell you that student government definitely is not dominated by aforementioned people, even in a place like Berkeley.

OTOH the UCI student body did call for removing the Stars and Stripes while the University-wide system urged divestment from several countries including the United States itself.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

What's up with student governments being dominated by Social Justice Warrior types?

it may just be that we don't pay any attention to non-SJW behavior by student governments.  no poster here had ever thought once about the Ithaca College SGA before this provocative story.

Working with someone within SG that many would consider a "Social Justice Warrior" type, I can tell you that student government definitely is not dominated by aforementioned people, even in a place like Berkeley.

OTOH the UCI student body did call for removing the Stars and Stripes while the University-wide system urged divestment from several countries including the United States itself.

There's a rather (somewhat petty) political reason why there was more than one country urged to divest by UCSA, but I'll let y'all connect the dots on that one.

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How many microaggressions are in a macroagression?

[Illuminati Blood Drinker]

How many microaggressions are in a macroagression?

A macroaggression is the sum of 1 microaggression and the square root of three triggers divided by the cube root of 1 fatshame. This is common knowledge, you know.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

How many microaggressions are in a macroagression?

Six

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How many microaggressions are in a macroagression?

Six

Jesus, when will Americans finally learn metric scales of aggression!?!?

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How many microaggressions are in a macroagression?

Macroagressions isn't a unit. 1000 microaggressions are in a milliaggression and 1 million microagressions are in an aggression.

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ahahaha, oh wow

great job liberals, 10/10

This really isn't a "liberal" thing, TNF.

In the traditional sense, it's certainly not. Liberals used to be defenders of free speech and opponents of things like monitoring online discussion and cataloging people who make the wrong comment so that they can better 'analyze' that information without of course, divulging to the person in question that they're being monitored. That liberalism is dead though. The new liberalism is all about the state or its equivalents in the private sector being the ever present monitor of all, cataloging information at all times that could be used at any given moment if someone says the wrong words somewhere or does the wrong thing. That it does so for the purported purpose of anti-racism (without ever addressing the structural issues of capitalism that make racism a reality) makes it all the more dangerous, as it can entice well-meaning members of the liberal-left into supporting it.

Believe it or not, TNF, power dynamics do exist and people can be victimized for a number of things. We don't live in your oversimplified world where the only thing that matters is how much money you have and if you're rich you're "bad" and if you're poor you're "good."

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ahahaha, oh wow

great job liberals, 10/10

This really isn't a "liberal" thing, TNF.

In the traditional sense, it's certainly not. Liberals used to be defenders of free speech and opponents of things like monitoring online discussion and cataloging people who make the wrong comment so that they can better 'analyze' that information without of course, divulging to the person in question that they're being monitored. That liberalism is dead though. The new liberalism is all about the state or its equivalents in the private sector being the ever present monitor of all, cataloging information at all times that could be used at any given moment if someone says the wrong words somewhere or does the wrong thing. That it does so for the purported purpose of anti-racism (without ever addressing the structural issues of capitalism that make racism a reality) makes it all the more dangerous, as it can entice well-meaning members of the liberal-left into supporting it.

Believe it or not, TNF, power dynamics do exist and people can be victimized for a number of things. We don't live in your oversimplified world where the only thing that matters is how much money you have and if you're rich you're "bad" and if you're poor you're "good."

TNF did not deny this, nor do I. We merely believe that power imbalances based on gender, race, etc. can fundamentally be traced back to the class system.

[Indy Texas]

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ahahaha, oh wow

great job liberals, 10/10

This really isn't a "liberal" thing, TNF.

In the traditional sense, it's certainly not. Liberals used to be defenders of free speech and opponents of things like monitoring online discussion and cataloging people who make the wrong comment so that they can better 'analyze' that information without of course, divulging to the person in question that they're being monitored. That liberalism is dead though. The new liberalism is all about the state or its equivalents in the private sector being the ever present monitor of all, cataloging information at all times that could be used at any given moment if someone says the wrong words somewhere or does the wrong thing. That it does so for the purported purpose of anti-racism (without ever addressing the structural issues of capitalism that make racism a reality) makes it all the more dangerous, as it can entice well-meaning members of the liberal-left into supporting it.

Believe it or not, TNF, power dynamics do exist and people can be victimized for a number of things. We don't live in your oversimplified world where the only thing that matters is how much money you have and if you're rich you're "bad" and if you're poor you're "good."

TNF did not deny this, nor do I. We merely believe that power imbalances based on gender, race, etc. can fundamentally be traced back to the class system.

Your saintly, blameless white male proletariat is just as responsible for making women, minorities, LGBT persons and others feel unwelcome and marginalized in society as anyone else is.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Please, tell me more about your childhood.

[ElectionsGuy]

Ugh, the progressive left that dominates many universities today is disgustingly militant and powerful.