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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: March 27, 2015, 04:44:40 PM »
« edited: March 27, 2015, 04:59:54 PM by Antonio V »

Just breaking.

At last, justice has prevailed.
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2015, 04:45:26 PM »

Thank God!
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2015, 04:47:22 PM »

Disgusting.
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2015, 04:51:41 PM »

Meh
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2015, 04:52:50 PM »

Finally!

The Italian Justice system is insane!
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2015, 04:53:10 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2015, 04:56:22 PM »


The principle of reasonable doubt is disgusting?
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2015, 04:57:10 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2015, 05:00:39 PM »

What the hell is wrong with you people?
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2015, 05:02:21 PM »

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Why be happy that someone who almost certainly committed murder were acquitted?
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2015, 05:03:17 PM »
« Edited: March 27, 2015, 05:08:22 PM by Antonio V »

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Why be happy that someone who almost certainly committed murder were acquitted?

[citation needed]

There is literally no direct evidence whatsoever.
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2015, 05:10:33 PM »

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Why be happy that someone who almost certainly committed murder were acquitted?

[citation needed]

There is literally no direct evidence whatsoever.
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The trial was a disaster.
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2015, 05:13:39 PM »

What a horrible miscarriage of justice. The word of the actual killer when bribed by the prosecutor, and the insinuation that she was a lesbian witch should clearly be enough for a conviction!!!
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2015, 05:17:00 PM »

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Why be happy that someone who almost certainly committed murder were acquitted?

[citation needed]

There is literally no direct evidence whatsoever.

No citation, but you can not expect those of us who  think they were guilty as hell to be happy about this.

(post was an answer to your "what the hell is wrong with you" outburst)
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2015, 05:18:20 PM »

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Why be happy that someone who almost certainly committed murder were acquitted?

[citation needed]

There is literally no direct evidence whatsoever.

No citation, but you can not expect those of us who  think they were guilty as hell to be happy about this.

(post was an answer to your "what the hell is wrong with you" outburst)

It is irrelevant whether you "think" they were guilty. You don't sentence people based on gut feelings. You sentence people based on evidence (of which, again, there was none).
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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2015, 05:21:44 PM »

Basically any time a lawyer brings up the possibility of Satanic ritual, they have lost.

It's like bringing up Hitler on the internet.
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2015, 05:26:07 PM »

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Why be happy that someone who almost certainly committed murder were acquitted?

[citation needed]

There is literally no direct evidence whatsoever.

No citation, but you can not expect those of us who  think they were guilty as hell to be happy about this.

(post was an answer to your "what the hell is wrong with you" outburst)

It is irrelevant whether you "think" they were guilty. You don't sentence people based on gut feelings. You sentence people based on evidence (of which, again, there was none).

Disgusting is an emotional, gut feeling term. So those things are relevant for whether I (and otjers) find this disgusting. Sometimes some of us would prefer a legally incorrect conviction of people we are convinced are murderers/rapists/crooks whatever. You are a very idealistic young man, some of us are less pure of heart, such is reality.
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2015, 05:26:37 PM »

Thank Christ

This whole thing was a massive stitch-up and a complete farce from the beginning
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2015, 05:28:52 PM »

I think it's more likely than not that they're guilty, but in dubio pro reo. It's the correct result.
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2015, 05:33:52 PM »

Finally!

The Italian Justice system is insane!

Which would be true no matter how the court had ruled.
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2015, 05:34:54 PM »

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Why be happy that someone who almost certainly committed murder were acquitted?

[citation needed]

There is literally no direct evidence whatsoever.

No citation, but you can not expect those of us who  think they were guilty as hell to be happy about this.

(post was an answer to your "what the hell is wrong with you" outburst)

It is irrelevant whether you "think" they were guilty. You don't sentence people based on gut feelings. You sentence people based on evidence (of which, again, there was none).

Disgusting is an emotional, gut feeling term. So those things are relevant for whether I (and otjers) find this disgusting. Sometimes some of us would prefer a legally incorrect conviction of people we are convinced are murderers/rapists/crooks whatever. You are a very idealistic young man, some of us are less pure of heart, such is reality.

I had no idea that embracing the principles that form the very basis of the rule of law in one's personal reaction to trials was a particularly unusual or idealistic attitude.
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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2015, 05:41:40 PM »

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Why be happy that someone who almost certainly committed murder were acquitted?

[citation needed]

There is literally no direct evidence whatsoever.

No citation, but you can not expect those of us who  think they were guilty as hell to be happy about this.

(post was an answer to your "what the hell is wrong with you" outburst)

It is irrelevant whether you "think" they were guilty. You don't sentence people based on gut feelings. You sentence people based on evidence (of which, again, there was none).

Disgusting is an emotional, gut feeling term. So those things are relevant for whether I (and others) find this disgusting. Sometimes some of us would prefer a legally incorrect conviction of people we are convinced are murderers/rapists/crooks whatever. You are a very idealistic young man, some of us are less pure of heart, such is reality.

I had no idea that embracing the principles that form the very basis of the rule of law in one's personal reaction to trials was a particularly unusual or idealistic attitude.

I have never seen a poll on this, but I think most people react to the outcome of high profile trials according to whether they think the accused are guilty or not. Judging on whether the ruling is legally correct is in my experience a minority position.
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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2015, 05:44:18 PM »

I really don't see how you could be sure this chick was guilty, even in a non-legal/gut way.

Maybe slightly leaning towards guilty but I can't see being positive.

There's no motive other than a Satanic ritual, which reeks of a desperate provincial prosecutor, and there's no evidence either.
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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2015, 05:47:55 PM »
« Edited: March 27, 2015, 06:02:39 PM by Antonio V »

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Why be happy that someone who almost certainly committed murder were acquitted?

[citation needed]

There is literally no direct evidence whatsoever.

No citation, but you can not expect those of us who  think they were guilty as hell to be happy about this.

(post was an answer to your "what the hell is wrong with you" outburst)

It is irrelevant whether you "think" they were guilty. You don't sentence people based on gut feelings. You sentence people based on evidence (of which, again, there was none).

Disgusting is an emotional, gut feeling term. So those things are relevant for whether I (and others) find this disgusting. Sometimes some of us would prefer a legally incorrect conviction of people we are convinced are murderers/rapists/crooks whatever. You are a very idealistic young man, some of us are less pure of heart, such is reality.

I had no idea that embracing the principles that form the very basis of the rule of law in one's personal reaction to trials was a particularly unusual or idealistic attitude.

I have never seen a poll on this, but I think most people react to the outcome of high profile trials according to whether they think the accused are guilty or not. Judging on whether the ruling is legally correct is in my experience a minority position.

I mean, it is one thing where a clearly guilty person is acquitted due to a procedural mishap or another legality of some sort. But this is not what happened in this case. There is no basis to find Knox and Sollecito guilty because there is no basis to think, with a reasonable degree of certainty, that they are guilty. Of course you can feel deep down in yourself (based on frivolous things like their demeanor, or a certain narrative you found convincing), that they are guilty. But if you would send someone to jail over such gut feeling, then you honestly scare me.
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« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2015, 05:55:03 PM »

Italy has proven itself to be the short bus as far as legal systems go
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