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« Reply #525 on: April 21, 2015, 11:09:57 AM »


Obama endorsing Miliband inc. Tongue
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« Reply #526 on: April 21, 2015, 11:28:37 AM »
« Edited: April 21, 2015, 11:30:19 AM by CrabCake »

LOL they're in my borough. Seeing as the major issue that Labour had a backlash in Enfield in the first place was the closue of local A&E services, I doubt privatised healthcare goons will go down a treat...

It certainly makes up for the shenanigans that occurred when Joan Ryan was reselected by the local Labour Party, against the wishes of literally everybody.
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« Reply #527 on: April 21, 2015, 11:48:11 AM »

That's an awesome study, Vega. I'm actually surprised to see Labour picking up so many of the LD voters as I thought those were flocking more evenly to the Conservatives (and some to UKIP as a new protest vote). I know it doesn't make intuitive sense (especially given that they should be upset about the current coalition), but that's what I've been seeing touted for so long.

Hopefully the large number of outstanding Conservatives and Lib Dems come home to their parties. The right-leaners in particularly should notice that a vote for UKIP is effectively wasted even if they are unhappy with the EU stance.

I also love looking at that UKIP rainbow of hate. Un-be-lievable.
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« Reply #528 on: April 21, 2015, 12:36:57 PM »

LOL
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« Reply #529 on: April 21, 2015, 12:54:10 PM »

Jim Murphy is having a bit of a...crisis right now.
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« Reply #530 on: April 21, 2015, 02:29:50 PM »

The upcoming YouGov poll is being hyped up.
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« Reply #531 on: April 21, 2015, 02:42:08 PM »

The upcoming YouGov poll is being hyped up.
Tories on 38% apparently.
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« Reply #532 on: April 21, 2015, 02:46:42 PM »

The upcoming YouGov poll is being hyped up.

They do that a lot.
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« Reply #533 on: April 21, 2015, 03:34:03 PM »

It looks like the Tory tactic to paint Miliband as a womanizing badboy has backfired.

are you a #milifan?
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« Reply #534 on: April 21, 2015, 04:02:11 PM »


I have a confession to make: I'm a #milifan.
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« Reply #535 on: April 21, 2015, 04:06:42 PM »


https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/590622405162315776

The woozle that wasn't.

Hyped up because it's the first Tory lead with them in a good while.
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« Reply #536 on: April 21, 2015, 04:09:37 PM »


https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/590622405162315776

The woozle that wasn't.

Hyped up because it's the first Tory lead with them in a good while.
We'll have to see the next couple of polls by YouGov to confirm the trend. Could this just be margin of error noise?
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« Reply #537 on: April 21, 2015, 04:14:59 PM »


https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/590622405162315776

The woozle that wasn't.

Hyped up because it's the first Tory lead with them in a good while.
We'll have to see the next couple of polls by YouGov to confirm the trend. Could this just be margin of error noise?

The same question may as well be asked of today's TNS (a swing to Labour) or yesterday's Ashcroft (a swing to the Tories).
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« Reply #538 on: April 21, 2015, 04:16:17 PM »

Most recent YouGov's have shown effective ties, so really there's nothing to confirm. Pollsters and newspapers that publish polls have really got to stop hyping the not-worth-hyping.

Anyway, full figures from that link: Con 35, Labour 34, UKIP 13, LDem 7, Greens 5, Others 6

Swing of 3% from 2010 (might add this to all reported polls from now on).
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« Reply #539 on: April 21, 2015, 04:24:33 PM »

Well it's the first Tory lead with YouGov since April 9th so it's out of the 'new norm' if that makes sense. Nothing has changed since January, while an accurate assessment of the polls, is not one that shifts newspapers or make people place bets.
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« Reply #540 on: April 21, 2015, 04:36:10 PM »

Prediction: Yougov's poll tomorrow will show a 3 point Labour lead, thus returning us back to the beginning.
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« Reply #541 on: April 21, 2015, 04:40:42 PM »

Polls like these mean the result for each party has a 95% chance of falling +/- 3 pt from the given figure. Let the Cons or Lab have a consistent 3 pt lead in 19 polls in a row, and we can call that a trend.
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« Reply #542 on: April 21, 2015, 07:12:06 PM »

"Cameron heart not in it"

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2015/04/22/cameron-has-wanted-out-for-a-while-just-wants-to-go-out-on-a-high-tim-montgomerie/
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« Reply #543 on: April 21, 2015, 08:04:43 PM »


This is terrible news for Ed Miliband.
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« Reply #544 on: April 22, 2015, 01:36:11 AM »

Most recent YouGov's have shown effective ties, so really there's nothing to confirm. Pollsters and newspapers that publish polls have really got to stop hyping the not-worth-hyping.

The hyping is silly, of course, but I see no reason to expect anything better from the Sun.  I'm more disappointed in the pollsters who do it.
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« Reply #545 on: April 22, 2015, 08:21:12 AM »

I will say right now that a Labour defeat would almost certainly not be down to Miliband, the SNP or Lynton Crosby. It would be down to trendy middle-class liberal leftists who obsess about global warming, UKIP and marijuana on a daily basis.
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« Reply #546 on: April 22, 2015, 08:30:28 AM »

I will say right now that a Labour defeat would almost certainly not be down to Miliband, the SNP or Lynton Crosby. It would be down to trendy middle-class liberal leftists who obsess about global warming, UKIP and marijuana on a daily basis.

I think you vastly overestimate the influence of hispters on the electorate...
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« Reply #547 on: April 22, 2015, 08:56:59 AM »

I will say right now that a Labour defeat would almost certainly not be down to Miliband, the SNP or Lynton Crosby. It would be down to trendy middle-class liberal leftists who obsess about global warming, UKIP and marijuana on a daily basis.

I think you vastly overestimate the influence of hispters on the electorate...

Specifically, I'm thinking of the way such people will vote and why. Nothing against the Greens per se, but I do have somewhat of an issue with those who vote for them because Labour is too working-class or, dare I use this word, 'normal'. I encounter such people on a daily basis, and while they are not bad people, their approach to politics leaves much to be desired. The same can be said of those who jumped onto the Clegg bandwagon in 2010.
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« Reply #548 on: April 22, 2015, 09:20:45 AM »

I will say right now that a Labour defeat would almost certainly not be down to Miliband, the SNP or Lynton Crosby. It would be down to trendy middle-class liberal leftists who obsess about global warming, UKIP and marijuana on a daily basis.

I think you vastly overestimate the influence of hispters on the electorate...

Specifically, I'm thinking of the way such people will vote and why. Nothing against the Greens per se, but I do have somewhat of an issue with those who vote for them because Labour is too working-class or, dare I use this word, 'normal'. I encounter such people on a daily basis, and while they are not bad people, their approach to politics leaves much to be desired. The same can be said of those who jumped onto the Clegg bandwagon in 2010.

Yeah tons of people say they're voting green to shake up the system, or because labour isn't left wing enough.
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« Reply #549 on: April 22, 2015, 09:41:03 AM »

I will say right now that a Labour defeat would almost certainly not be down to Miliband, the SNP or Lynton Crosby. It would be down to trendy middle-class liberal leftists who obsess about global warming, UKIP and marijuana on a daily basis.

I think you vastly overestimate the influence of hispters on the electorate...

Specifically, I'm thinking of the way such people will vote and why. Nothing against the Greens per se, but I do have somewhat of an issue with those who vote for them because Labour is too working-class or, dare I use this word, 'normal'. I encounter such people on a daily basis, and while they are not bad people, their approach to politics leaves much to be desired. The same can be said of those who jumped onto the Clegg bandwagon in 2010.

Yeah tons of people say they're voting green to shake up the system, or because labour isn't left wing enough.
bar for the SP I think Labour is the leftiest of the European large centre-left parties. anyway green voters would be unimportant if Labour could tear the left side of the LD back in
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