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« on: March 31, 2015, 08:48:58 PM »

Can the members of the speech police help me out here...I thought insulting women and jews got you fired/suspended in 2015.


http://www.cnbc.com/id/102550492

For the record I agree with Comedy Central's policy of letting him stay, but if a non-liberal comedian posted this, there would be a witch hunt.
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2015, 08:51:02 PM »

Because nobody gives a sh!t. He's a comedian. People should stop being butthurt. Political Correctness is ruining this country.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2015, 08:58:55 PM »

if a non-liberal comedian posted this, there would be a witch hunt.

Badgate's #1 trick for identifying fallacy: when people use this type of argument.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2015, 09:05:25 PM »

I suspect Comedy Central will ultimately be forced to cut him loose... mainly because Conservatives will just keep screaming "Double Standard", and liberals don't seem to allow anything negative to be said against women these days, no matter what the context.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2015, 09:24:40 PM »

Most of the outrage over this I'm seeing is actually coming from the left, due to his comments about women, Indians, Jews, and *gasps* fat people!

I'm not sure he'll hold on, especially as he was always an iffy, obscure choice.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2015, 10:11:11 PM »

if a non-liberal comedian posted this, there would be a witch hunt.

Badgate's #1 trick for identifying fallacy: when people use this type of argument.

Exhibit A is the selective editing on this website. Bolsheviks and their mass-murder of the capitalist class memes are cheeky fun time. Referring to every religious person or white conservative as a hateful bigot is downright prudent.

If you try to say the same of Eric Holder or you accuse a lib of being an anti-semite, even if its just mockery, you will be censored.

If society didn't have a double standard for political speech, it wouldn't have any standards at all.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2015, 10:34:14 PM »

t_host, is that you?
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2015, 11:03:32 PM »

He is part Jewish, so he can skate on that one.

Also, Comedy Central doesn't cancel Daniel Tosh for saying worse things, so I imagine he'll survive this.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2015, 11:09:12 PM »

if a non-liberal comedian posted this, there would be a witch hunt.

Badgate's #1 trick for identifying fallacy: when people use this type of argument.

Exhibit A is the selective editing on this website. Bolsheviks and their mass-murder of the capitalist class memes are cheeky fun time. Referring to every religious person or white conservative as a hateful bigot is downright prudent.

If you try to say the same of Eric Holder or you accuse a lib of being an anti-semite, even if its just mockery, you will be censored.

If society didn't have a double standard for political speech, it wouldn't have any standards at all.
The difference is that he's a comedian. He's not a religious leader. He's not a Congressman or Senator or Governor. His job isn't to make and enforce laws in the US. It's to make fun of people.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2015, 11:42:58 PM »

if a non-liberal comedian posted this, there would be a witch hunt.

Badgate's #1 trick for identifying fallacy: when people use this type of argument.

Is he wrong, though?
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2015, 12:14:03 AM »

Because nobody gives a sh!t. He's a comedian. People should stop being butthurt. Political Correctness is ruining this country.

gtfo please.
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2015, 01:10:56 AM »

Because nobody gives a sh!t. He's a comedian. People should stop being butthurt. Political Correctness is ruining this country.

gtfo please.

I agree. I don't think that I'll be able to go on Atlas anymore if it isn't cleansed and turned into a true safe space.

PC is love. PC is life.
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2015, 03:56:13 AM »

I support PC and I have no problem with these remarks. There's nothing hateful about them.
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2015, 08:54:56 AM »

TL;DR: Guy whose new job is to make fun of people for a living makes fun of people in his free time, too.
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2015, 08:59:21 AM »

Because nobody gives a sh!t. He's a comedian. People should stop being butthurt. Political Correctness is ruining this country.

This.
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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2015, 09:17:29 AM »

I support PC and I have no problem with these remarks. There's nothing hateful about them.

This, however, is my sentiment. Besides, it's childish to dig up what someone said years ago and use it against them in the present day. People change, and everyone says stupid stuff at certain times in their life.
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2015, 11:02:03 AM »

I don't give a fyck about his tweets, I think he's funny and will be a great host.
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2015, 02:59:24 PM »

I support PC and I have no problem with these remarks. There's nothing hateful about them.

This, however, is my sentiment. Besides, it's childish to dig up what someone said years ago and use it against them in the present day. People change, and everyone says stupid stuff at certain times in their life.
Ugh. PC only counts when right-wingers are involved amirite?
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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2015, 03:12:39 PM »

This Slate editorial has it right:

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Yeah, his tweets are very bad, not because they're offensive, because they're not remotely funny and they betray a real lack of humor. 

But, it's a tad unfair to judge him so quickly.  However, this looks to be a disaster and an extremely puzzling choice.  Maybe it's something about international syndication.
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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2015, 09:55:28 PM »

I support PC and I have no problem with these remarks. There's nothing hateful about them.

This, however, is my sentiment. Besides, it's childish to dig up what someone said years ago and use it against them in the present day. People change, and everyone says stupid stuff at certain times in their life.

Ugh. PC only counts when right-wingers are involved amirite?

Correct.

But in all seriousness, it applies to both sides. I was EXTREMELY awful when I was younger, I frequently used racial slurs for the "hip" factor, I told every awful joke in the book, but I grew up. If a right winger uses racist/homophobic/sexist language, it's wrong. If a left winger does the same thing, it's just as wrong. Seth Macfarlane was completely wrong for his song about rape that he did at the Oscars, and I was furious with him afterwards. If a right winger says "hey, i'm not going to use those words because they're offensive" then power to them. I don't care what one's ideology is, I'm concerned with making sure people aren't going around spouting slurs and epithets because "muh first amendment"
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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2015, 04:47:07 AM »

He is part Jewish, so he can skate on that one.

His mother was also a woman, so I guess he's half woman, so we can also let him skate on that one.
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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2015, 09:11:43 AM »

I support PC and I have no problem with these remarks. There's nothing hateful about them.

This, however, is my sentiment. Besides, it's childish to dig up what someone said years ago and use it against them in the present day. People change, and everyone says stupid stuff at certain times in their life.

Ugh. PC only counts when right-wingers are involved amirite?

Correct.

But in all seriousness, it applies to both sides. I was EXTREMELY awful when I was younger, I frequently used racial slurs for the "hip" factor, I told every awful joke in the book, but I grew up. If a right winger uses racist/homophobic/sexist language, it's wrong. If a left winger does the same thing, it's just as wrong. Seth Macfarlane was completely wrong for his song about rape that he did at the Oscars, and I was furious with him afterwards. If a right winger says "hey, i'm not going to use those words because they're offensive" then power to them. I don't care what one's ideology is, I'm concerned with making sure people aren't going around spouting slurs and epithets because "muh first amendment"

I almost wish you didn't grow up.
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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2015, 09:31:23 AM »


Yeah, cuz it was a lot more fun going around saying the n-word because "why can't white people say it too????????????????????????????"
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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2015, 09:36:14 AM »


Yeah, cuz it was a lot more fun going around saying the n-word because "why can't white people say it too?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh"

No, because in that instance you wouldn't be acting like a self righteous killjoy 100% of the time.
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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2015, 03:31:07 AM »

Omg pcees going mahd
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