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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2015, 09:53:52 AM »

No, because in that instance you wouldn't be acting like a self righteous killjoy 100% of the time.

I would much, much prefer to be a "self-righteous killjoy" than someone who thinks it's funny, cool or edgy to use racial slurs.
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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2015, 07:33:12 PM »

Atlas forums continues to have absolutely no sense of humor. News at 11.
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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2015, 10:28:32 PM »
« Edited: April 08, 2015, 10:36:17 PM by maxwell »

He should lose his job because he's not funny, not because he makes dumb comments on twitter like every other 20 something year old male who thinks they're superior to everyone else. This is a fake controversy.

If they're not going to fire Tosh.o for having terrible comic timing...

ALSO, the whole "offensive words" discussion is a heap of guilty nonsense.
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« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2015, 10:29:53 PM »

Because most of the people who are pearl-clutching over it are paternalists disguising themselves as defenders of social justice.
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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2015, 11:15:41 AM »
« Edited: April 12, 2015, 11:18:03 AM by The Arizonan »

How did Trevor Noah get picked to be the new host of The Daily Show? I think Lewis Black or Jessica Williams would've been better choices.

Personally, I find political correctness to be acceptable, even necessary, up to a certain point. After that point, it gets annoying and unbearable.

For example, people should avoid using racial and other types of slurs, but at the same time, colleges and other institutions shouldn't start banning words.

I think that we're getting a bit too worried about offending other people these days. Here in the Navy, they put an emphasis on not listening to music with offensive lyrics and not wearing potentially offensive clothing. You can make people in the military work long hours and deal with BS, but God forbid you offend someone.

He is part Jewish, so he can skate on that one.

Also, Comedy Central doesn't cancel Daniel Tosh for saying worse things, so I imagine he'll survive this.

How does Trevor Noah being part Jewish give him some leeway?
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« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2015, 12:11:35 PM »

How did Trevor Noah get picked to be the new host of The Daily Show? I think Lewis Black or Jessica Williams would've been better choices.

Personally, I find political correctness to be acceptable, even necessary, up to a certain point. After that point, it gets annoying and unbearable.

For example, people should avoid using racial and other types of slurs, but at the same time, colleges and other institutions shouldn't start banning words.

I think that we're getting a bit too worried about offending other people these days. Here in the Navy, they put an emphasis on not listening to music with offensive lyrics and not wearing potentially offensive clothing. You can make people in the military work long hours and deal with BS, but God forbid you offend someone.

He is part Jewish, so he can skate on that one.

Also, Comedy Central doesn't cancel Daniel Tosh for saying worse things, so I imagine he'll survive this.

How does Trevor Noah being part Jewish give him some leeway?
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« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2015, 12:15:07 PM »

Because most of the people who are pearl-clutching over it are paternalists disguising themselves as defenders of social justice.

I don't buy this.
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2015, 10:46:49 AM »

How does Trevor Noah being part Jewish give him some leeway?

The same way it gave Jon Leibowitz some leeway, despite not being an observant Jew.
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« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2015, 10:46:08 AM »

How does Trevor Noah being part Jewish give him some leeway?

The same way it gave Jon Leibowitz some leeway, despite not being an observant Jew.

Can we just call Jon Stewart by his current name and not birth name?
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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2015, 10:47:39 AM »

How does Trevor Noah being part Jewish give him some leeway?

The same way it gave Jon Leibowitz some leeway, despite not being an observant Jew.

Can we just call Jon Stewart by his current name and not birth name?

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« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2015, 02:30:34 PM »

Because most of the people who are pearl-clutching over it are paternalists disguising themselves as defenders of social justice.

I don't buy this.

I mean it's mostly white Christians getting angry because a Jewish man (who would be accepted under Israel's Law of Return) is making jokes about his own people.

Pretty clear-cut case of paternalism.
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« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2015, 02:31:39 PM »

Because most of the people who are pearl-clutching over it are paternalists disguising themselves as defenders of social justice.

I don't buy this.

I mean it's mostly white Christians getting angry because a Jewish man (who would be accepted under Israel's Law of Return) is making jokes about his own people.

Pretty clear-cut case of paternalism.

I'm lost as to how this is paternalism.
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« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2015, 03:06:32 PM »

if a non-liberal comedian posted this, there would be a witch hunt.

Badgate's #1 trick for identifying fallacy: when people use this type of argument.

Fallacic arguments often are close enough to truth that they become an enhancer rather than a drag.
Rubbing baby boy penis on your face to stay young is encouraged in the media.

If men were importing African baby girl clitori and rubbing it on their face to make them manlier...I believe very strongly there would be a witch hunt.  As in the witches of all genders would be on the hunt.  Law school white males living in utter privelege leading the hunt.

That's when fallacy blurs with every indicative likelihood in society.

Mutilating baby boys so Oprah can look purple and gleaming is totes okay.  But if John Boehner did it but with baby girl parts?  Holy sh**t, watch out.  Lief would have him thrown in prison with the MRAs.

But CTrattlesnake...quit focusing all your time on the myriad colors of the rainbow insisting your color is better.  I know your philosophy type by the way you simplify Joe Bastardi's already overly simplified argument and regurgitate it here.

I have trouble explaining anything...but like goat gods covered in jao... You go the same way. "HA.  JUST WAIT TILL THE PDO FLIPS THE MJO INTO THE AMO AND CAUSES A BFD ALL OVER YOUR MSG!"  Nobody gets that but you.  And me.

Why not say:  I see liberal comedians get away with racist remarks all the time.  They claim to do so ironically.  I feel as though a conservative comedian who makes the same joke would be treated differently...and unfairly so.  Do you agree?

The idiots will say HAHALULZERSKATESYOUMRAHAHAGOTOPRISON.  Or say ... And scoff.  R2D2Oakvale comes to mind.  The non idiots will state their position with the same mark of civility you did.  "No, I don't think that's the way I'd put it.  Liberal comedians use ironic racism to break the ice and have a frank discussion of the issue under the safe guise of comedy."

They use racism as a tool to discourage it.  Conservatives use it to discourage the race they're joking about.

Liberal satire is grounded in poking fun and giggling.  Conservative satire cuts the throat and wonders why nobody likes it but the throat cutters.
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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2015, 10:57:52 PM »

 

i can't even jao at this
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« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2015, 10:41:26 AM »

I think we're getting a bit too worried about offending other people to the point that we think of it almost like a mortal sin. If Seth McFarlane or whoever sings a song about rape and it is offensive, just get over it and feel free to give him a piece of your mind.
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« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2015, 12:00:01 PM »


With that post we have officially entered a new dimension of reality.
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« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2015, 12:17:18 PM »

We need to ban Snowguy for his own good.
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