CA: Gov. Brown orders mandatory water restrictions (25% reduction statewide)

[All Along The Watchtower]

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New York Times.

I guess it was foolish to ever think that some 40 million-odd people, all of that agribusiness and ranching, etc. wouldn't have exerted strain on resources, especially considering that this is the Western U.S.

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California should ban lawns and golf.

In fact the whole country should ban golf.

[badgate]

April....fools?

[Associate Justice PiT]

     The western United States, and California as its most egregious example, are extremely overpopulated for what the climate and the environs will support. It's only a matter of time before an extended drought ends in disaster. We're already perilously close to that point.

[Likely Voter]

Hopefully they are serious about restrictions on agriculture this time. They use 80% of the water, so it is going to make a bigger dent then low-flow toilets and lawn watering limits.

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Hopefully they are serious about restrictions on agriculture this time. They use 80% of the water, so it is going to make a bigger dent then low-flow toilets and lawn watering limits.

The thing about restaurants not giving water to customers unless they ask for it is particularly silly since the food they serve requires hundreds of gallons per entree to produce.

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I guess it was foolish to ever think that some 40 million-odd people, all of that agribusiness and ranching, etc. wouldn't have exerted strain on resources, especially considering that this is the Western U.S.

"In short, we are entering an era of limits" - Jerry Brown, 1976.

[Likely Voter]

Hopefully they are serious about restrictions on agriculture this time. They use 80% of the water, so it is going to make a bigger dent then low-flow toilets and lawn watering limits.

The thing about restaurants not giving water to customers unless they ask for it is particularly silly since the food they serve requires hundreds of gallons per entree to produce.

I suspect that the restaurant thing was more about getting the message out about the need to conserve. if they make you ask for water you are confronted with it and more likely to conserve back at home.

[Cory]

I suspect that the restaurant thing was more about getting the message out about the need to conserve. if they make you ask for water you are confronted with it and more likely to conserve back at home.

So they think someone should be implicitly shamed if they want a glass of Ice Water with their food? Really? Not everybody likes to drink soda every single time.

Don't they ask customers what they want to drink anyways? They will just say "ice water please".

This particular provision is just silly. Either that or I am just utterly misinterpreting the provision.

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I suspect that the restaurant thing was more about getting the message out about the need to conserve. if they make you ask for water you are confronted with it and more likely to conserve back at home.

So they think someone should be implicitly shamed if they want a glass of Ice Water with their food? Really? Not everybody likes to drink soda every single time.

Don't they ask customers what they want to drink anyways? They will just say "ice water please".

This particular provision is just silly. Either that or I am just utterly misinterpreting the provision.

Clearly they should drink milk instead, which requires 1000 times as much water.

[RFayette]

Clearly it's time for Californians to pray for rain and repent of their sodomite ways.

[King]

Typical Caifornia NIMBYs blaming people drinking water in restaurants over its self-inflicted infrastructure problems and gluttony

[Ban my account ffs!]

Oh no doubt itll be everybody elses fault.

And when no one takes the blame..its global warming so it is YOUR fault (ours too but we're suffering so we'll worry about guilt later)

The California way:

  make California's problems the worlds.
Demand they pitch in to fix them.
Find a scapegoat within California
Sacrifice it on the alter of projection, thus
Showing the world how serious California is about solving the problem.

Profit.

[Free Bird]

I'd like to point out that California was overpopulated when it was abnormally WET, so this is not really a drought as much as a reversion to its natural climate.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Wait, they've been watering their lawns this whole time?!?!

[AggregateDemand]

No good solutions for California. If SoCal dries out so will tourism. If agriculture production falls so will GDP.

It seems the only way out of the problem is to make suburbia more compact and reduce the size of the irrigated landmass. Even then, fire could be a serious threat.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I suspect that the restaurant thing was more about getting the message out about the need to conserve. if they make you ask for water you are confronted with it and more likely to conserve back at home.

So they think someone should be implicitly shamed if they want a glass of Ice Water with their food? Really? Not everybody likes to drink soda every single time.

Don't they ask customers what they want to drink anyways? They will just say "ice water please".

Right, but some restaurants will bring you water (along with what you actually ordered for a drink) whether you explicitly asked for it or not. This bans that practice in the hope that it will help make customers feel more ashamed of their overall water use. Seems kind of silly if you ask me, but that's just how odd CA is these days.

[AggregateDemand]

Right, but some restaurants will bring you water (along with what you actually ordered for a drink) whether you explicitly asked for it or not. This bans that practice in the hope that it will help make customers feel more ashamed of their overall water use. Seems kind of silly if you ask me, but that's just how odd CA is these days.

The water gets poured down the drain and into a water treatment facility. Shame should be reserved for the people who water their property at 7am, only to have 90% of the water seep through the sandy soil or evaporate into the air.

[Flake]

Lol snowguy

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

This would most definitely be a good time for California to reassess its water supplier relationship with Nestle.

[Sumner 1868]

"In short, we are entering an era of limits" - Jerry Brown, 1976.

Yes, Brown has always had a strange love of austerity.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

California should ban lawns and golf.

In fact the whole country should ban golf.

Gold is the dumbest "sport" ever.

[Mr. Illini]

FF

Also lol @ tara gilesbie

[Ebowed]

I'm seeing a lot of common sense in this thread.  Ban golf and for goodness' sake, stop drinking cow's milk if you care about water consumption (almond milk isn't so great either).

In the early 90s, George Carlin was claiming that we should replace golf courses and cemeteries with public housing.  Intentionally provocative, naturally, but also not really so far off the mark.

[Simfan34]

Oh no doubt itll be everybody elses fault.

And when no one takes the blame..its global warming so it is YOUR fault (ours too but we're suffering so we'll worry about guilt later)

The California way:

  make California's problems the worlds.
Demand they pitch in to fix them.
Find a scapegoat within California
Sacrifice it on the alter of projection, thus
Showing the world how serious California is about solving the problem.

Profit.

Their hot dog stand and flammability regulations will save them!!!