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« Reply #675 on: May 05, 2015, 10:08:09 PM »

The three random non-Calgary area PC seats (Peace River, Vermillion, and Grande Prairie-Wapiti) really ruin the map aesthetically.
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« Reply #676 on: May 05, 2015, 10:08:19 PM »

CBC PROJECTS NDP MAJORITY.
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« Reply #677 on: May 05, 2015, 10:08:29 PM »

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« Reply #678 on: May 05, 2015, 10:12:07 PM »

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« Reply #679 on: May 05, 2015, 10:12:58 PM »

For now it seems we'll get 5 parties in, Libs and AP both clinging on to one seat. I switched WR and PC in vote efficiency in my prediction.
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« Reply #680 on: May 05, 2015, 10:13:10 PM »

It should be easy for Prentice to hold onto the leadership of the PCs considering all of his fellow MLAs are being defeated en masse. Who's even left to challenge him?

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« Reply #681 on: May 05, 2015, 10:13:56 PM »

NDP popular vote is dropping, but they're holding on at around 54 seats.
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« Reply #682 on: May 05, 2015, 10:15:16 PM »

WR is official opposition. Most seat projections from polls look dead on.
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« Reply #683 on: May 05, 2015, 10:17:06 PM »

Meanwhile, in bizarro world, PCs regain the lead in Cardston-Taber-Warner, which went Wildrose by double-digits in 2012. Huh?

NDP lead with 55 seats, to 19 Wildrose, 11 PC, and 1 each for Liberals and Alberta Party. Popular vote is 40% NDP, 25% Wildrose, 28% PC, 4% Liberal, 2% Alberta.
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« Reply #684 on: May 05, 2015, 10:17:11 PM »

NDP below 40% now Sad
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« Reply #685 on: May 05, 2015, 10:17:20 PM »

Wildrose official says it's a good result for them. They've seemed unusually defeatist this whole campaign. 2012 and 2014 have left their mark.
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« Reply #686 on: May 05, 2015, 10:20:13 PM »

Wildrose official says it's a good result for them. They've seemed unusually defeatist this whole campaign. 2012 and 2014 have left their mark.

They totally faded after the debate. They were invisible.
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« Reply #687 on: May 05, 2015, 10:20:58 PM »

If not for Banff-Cochrane, Calgary could be an NDP circle (with 2 spots in it, though), surrounded by a PC circle, surrounded by Wildrose. The NDP leads Wildrose just 38%-35% in Banff -- come on...

Wildrose official says it's a good result for them. They've seemed unusually defeatist this whole campaign. 2012 and 2014 have left their mark.

It is. It sets them up to form government once the NDP falls in a decade or so.
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« Reply #688 on: May 05, 2015, 10:22:24 PM »

Prentice to concede in about 10-15 minutes.
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« Reply #689 on: May 05, 2015, 10:22:28 PM »

Hahah the Liberal operative on CBC: "this is the second election in a row where Albertans have picked the most left-wing major party"
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« Reply #690 on: May 05, 2015, 10:22:56 PM »

Really though, we are in NO position to predict how the 2019 Alberta election is going. If history is any indication, the NDP will be in power for at least 4 full terms. But we just saw "history" defied today.
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« Reply #691 on: May 05, 2015, 10:23:24 PM »

CBC projects Official Opposition to be Wildrose
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« Reply #692 on: May 05, 2015, 10:24:15 PM »

If not for Banff-Cochrane, Calgary could be an NDP circle (with 2 spots in it, though), surrounded by a PC circle, surrounded by Wildrose. The NDP leads Wildrose just 38%-35% in Banff -- come on...

Wildrose official says it's a good result for them. They've seemed unusually defeatist this whole campaign. 2012 and 2014 have left their mark.

It is. It sets them up to form government once the NDP falls in a decade or so.
Or to sit on the opposition benches over the coming 40 year reign of the NDP Tongue
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« Reply #693 on: May 05, 2015, 10:26:14 PM »

How many PC appointees in the provincial government are going to lose their jobs?
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« Reply #694 on: May 05, 2015, 10:26:42 PM »

Really though, we are in NO position to predict how the 2019 Alberta election is going. If history is any indication, the NDP will be in power for at least 4 full terms. But we just saw "history" defied today.

The NDP requires some degree of disunity among the right to govern in Alberta. How long it can depend on that determines how long it can (not necessarily will, but can) remain in office. Since Wildrose took second, they're more likely to become the right-wing successor (especially since in Alberta defeated government parties usually just fade away in a couple elections), though it's not guaranteed: see New Brunswick's Confederation of Regions, or wherever it was that they were briefly OO in the early '90s, for a counterexample.
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« Reply #695 on: May 05, 2015, 10:29:17 PM »

Really though, we are in NO position to predict how the 2019 Alberta election is going. If history is any indication, the NDP will be in power for at least 4 full terms. But we just saw "history" defied today.

The NDP requires some degree of disunity among the right to govern in Alberta. How long it can depend on that determines how long it can (not necessarily will, but can) remain in office. Since Wildrose took second, they're more likely to become the right-wing successor (especially since in Alberta defeated government parties usually just fade away in a couple elections), though it's not guaranteed: see New Brunswick's Confederation of Regions, or wherever it was that they were briefly OO in the early '90s, for a counterexample.

Yeah, but SoCred and Farmers Union and whatever were basically regional parties. The PCs have the national Tory infrastructure to support them. Also, the PCs are a center-right party; in a two-way NDP-Wild Rose race, some of the PC vote is going to pick the NDP.
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« Reply #696 on: May 05, 2015, 10:29:24 PM »

Really though, we are in NO position to predict how the 2019 Alberta election is going. If history is any indication, the NDP will be in power for at least 4 full terms. But we just saw "history" defied today.

The NDP requires some degree of disunity among the right to govern in Alberta. How long it can depend on that determines how long it can (not necessarily will, but can) remain in office. Since Wildrose took second, they're more likely to become the right-wing successor (especially since in Alberta defeated government parties usually just fade away in a couple elections), though it's not guaranteed: see New Brunswick's Confederation of Regions, or wherever it was that they were briefly OO in the early '90s, for a counterexample.

Not sure. There is some centrists in PC which voted PC this time, but will prefer NDP to WR.
Also, some electors are not ideological at all and will just vote for government (or against government).
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« Reply #697 on: May 05, 2015, 10:30:19 PM »

Dat PC vote inefficiency tho... Ô_o"

It seems a lot of people ended up casting a Conservative vote in places where it ultimately didn't matter.

NDP vote share should stabilise just below 40%. I'll be a Tender and say I told you so.
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« Reply #698 on: May 05, 2015, 10:31:15 PM »

Really though, we are in NO position to predict how the 2019 Alberta election is going. If history is any indication, the NDP will be in power for at least 4 full terms. But we just saw "history" defied today.

The NDP requires some degree of disunity among the right to govern in Alberta. How long it can depend on that determines how long it can (not necessarily will, but can) remain in office. Since Wildrose took second, they're more likely to become the right-wing successor (especially since in Alberta defeated government parties usually just fade away in a couple elections), though it's not guaranteed: see New Brunswick's Confederation of Regions, or wherever it was that they were briefly OO in the early '90s, for a counterexample.

For the moment his sounds reasonable. However, one should take into account that next time NDP will no longer be an unknown quantity. If they are bad, they will fade. But if they do decently, they might get an incumbency advantage that would make them pretty difficult to dislodge.
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« Reply #699 on: May 05, 2015, 10:33:51 PM »

Meanwhile, in bizarro world, PCs regain the lead in Cardston-Taber-Warner, which went Wildrose by double-digits in 2012. Huh?


That riding went for them in 2008, too (only one)
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