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« Reply #75 on: April 09, 2015, 02:58:35 PM »

Well, I'm no hands-off smallgovernmentarian, but I feel that these sort of interventions are overly crude. I feel that if the state really wanted to prevent dysfunctional homes it would invest in affordable childcare, limit working hours and boost socialwork programs.
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« Reply #76 on: April 09, 2015, 03:00:46 PM »

Well, I'm no hands-off smallgovernmentarian, but I feel that these sort of interventions are overly crude. I feel that if the state really wanted to prevent dysfunctional homes it would invest in affordable childcare, limit working hours and boost socialwork programs.

I have long been a very strong proponent of the first idea and similar pro-family measures.
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« Reply #77 on: April 10, 2015, 08:19:37 PM »

I agree with everything in your post, King, except there's an element of moral hazard that comes in if children or other dependents are involved.

Yeah, if you are giving money to an addict or a compulsive gambler, you are contributing to a problem.  That doesn't mean "solutions" like this do any good or aren't worse than the problem.

Well, a workable system of the negative income tax, as I see it, is that in order to receive it, there has to be some employer doing this for you--similar to FICA only instead of withholding money, the employer is adding money to your check that the government reimburses to them. It's purely a supplemental income program not to replace SSI disability or TANF. So in that sense, a drug addict would not be able to receive welfare benefits if they can't at least hold a part time job to produce tax forms.

I understand concerns, but to me stopping addiction is not a supplement income problem. It's very War on Drugs to think cutting drug addicts from money stops the problem. There should be a drug rehab program in this country, but tying it to benefits won't solve anything.

I don't understand how, if negative income tax does not replace disability or TANF, it is related to receipt of welfare benefits.
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« Reply #78 on: April 10, 2015, 08:42:10 PM »

Naso's argument:  'I'll give one nickel to a perfect virgin mother who has been knocked over by my fart...but only if I get to watch her get up and critique.  If she does anything wrong...her kid gets it.'

Gross, Mike.
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« Reply #79 on: April 10, 2015, 11:15:12 PM »

This law has nothing to do with food stamps. Nothing.  It just so happens that it's also just a shallow sack of conservative pandering in search of an actual problem, but it would be nice if all the experts on the Atlas Forum learn the distinction between various assistance programs before they start editorializing about them.
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