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« on: April 09, 2015, 03:19:14 AM »

New Gallup poll:





Massive drop among Indys and Republicans over the past few month:



http://www.gallup.com/poll/182351/clinton-favorable-rating-dems.aspx
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2015, 03:19:52 AM »

On PPP, she's even down to 41-53 favorables ...
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2015, 04:00:13 AM »

Wasn't there just a thread about how her favorability was 47-49 in April 2007? So this would actually be an improvement.

Anyway, this is no surprise whatsoever. Everyone who follows politics already knew her numbers were going to crater among Republicans and conservative independents once her nonpartisan glow wore off. She's still easily the most popular candidate in the 2016 field.
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2015, 04:01:14 AM »

Her numbers will continue to deteriorate once the campaign begins.
Not necessarily. Her numbers were remarkably durable during the 2008 campaign, and that was during a divisive democratic primary.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2015, 04:08:21 AM »

Yeah, it's fairly obvious that she won't get to the White House (assuming she does) on the wave of enthusiasm that Obama did.

Still, nice that she's less popular than that corrupt, smarmy tw*t Edwards was at this point in the previous cycle.
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2015, 04:33:08 PM »

She has a real problem no one has thought of yet.

Does she campaign as Obama's third term or not? Both have dangers.
Can she get both the Obama coalition and add to it by appealing to white voters too? It is tough to do. Appealing to one will alienate the other.

If she is going to run in income inequality, that is tantamount to repudiating much of the Obama domestic presidency. It begs the question: Why has Obama not addressed the problem of income inequality?

As soon as she starts developing a campaign, her approval will begin falling.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2015, 11:36:53 PM »

And yet she's still the second most popular politician in America, after her husband.

All without any sort of formalized campaign yet to respond to the steady attack machine levied against her from both ends of the political spectrum.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2015, 11:40:19 PM »
« Edited: April 09, 2015, 11:43:44 PM by Monarch »

Does she campaign as Obama's third term or not? Both have dangers.

None as dangerous as Jeb running on George. Or any of the ideas of Ted Cruz. She can also invoke 90s nostalgia.

Can she get both the Obama coalition and add to it by appealing to white voters too?

She can get the Obama coalition by the Republicans once again simply conceding it. She doesn't need to add to any white voters, who will decline again as a share of the electorate.

It begs the question: Why has Obama not addressed the problem of income inequality?

Republican Congress.

All of this talk of "how is Hillary going to keep these voters together" is the same garbage talk from 2012 of "how is Obama going to keep these voters together?" That's not a relevant question. The question is HOW, HOW are the Republicans going to take these voters?

For being the party against entitlements, the Republicans act entitled to winning the Presidency. They don't want to work for it. Betting on your opponent losing support is a loser's bet.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2015, 11:41:17 PM »

Poor Hillary, just couldn't stay out of the spotlight through election day.
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2015, 01:03:14 AM »

On PPP, she's even down to 41-53 favorables ...

You know better than to trust PPP's national polls. Remember the ones during the 2012 race?
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2015, 12:08:51 PM »

She can get the Obama coalition by the Republicans once again simply conceding it. She doesn't need to add to any white voters, who will decline again as a share of the electorate.
This is actually a valid problem, since while the Obama coalition is lost to the Republicans, getting it to turn out in sufficient numbers is quite another matter (see last two midterms). Regarding white voters, they're not declining that fast (exit polls tend to exaggerate Hispanic turnout, for example), though fortunately for Clinton she is likely to do better among them simply for not being Obama, even disregarding her more favorable political positions.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2015, 01:12:38 PM »

doesn't matter, Obama was a historically unique phenomenon.  the only way to beat her is to staple together blacks with progressives and younger voters.  nobody can do that this year.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2015, 09:59:15 AM »

She can get the Obama coalition by the Republicans once again simply conceding it. She doesn't need to add to any white voters, who will decline again as a share of the electorate.
This is actually a valid problem, since while the Obama coalition is lost to the Republicans, getting it to turn out in sufficient numbers is quite another matter (see last two midterms). Regarding white voters, they're not declining that fast (exit polls tend to exaggerate Hispanic turnout, for example), though fortunately for Clinton she is likely to do better among them simply for not being Obama, even disregarding her more favorable political positions.

Can you tell us more about that?
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