CO/IA/VA-Quinnipiac: Hillary quite weak, as Paul runs best against her
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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2015, 02:38:17 PM »

VA seems fine, but the most unbelievable part is that Paul performs best there. Cutting the whole federal government must be playing great there.

So must be cutting ethanol subsidies in Iowa, at least according to this poll.

Barack Obama won Iowa solidly twice in part on promises of ethanol subsidies. Republicans are going to lose the farm vote in Iowa if they end them.
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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2015, 03:15:02 PM »

Clinton leads Bush 47 - 40 percent in Virginia, compared to a 42 - 42 percent tie February 18.

But Tender, I thought emailgate was going to make Hillary trail Jeb, not improve by 7 points. Wink

This poll is really a mixed bag, contrary to the typical spin of the thread title. Hillary winning VA by an identical or greater margin than Obama is excellent news for her. We already knew Hillary was very weak in CO, so that can't really be taken as bad news. The IA results are certainly bad for her though.
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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2015, 03:35:04 PM »

Could her lack of a credible primary challenger being hurting her, at least for now, in Iowa? Republicans are stealing most of the news and airtime in the state.
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« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2015, 04:57:29 PM »

Historical precedent shows how hard it is for a Democrat president to be elected in an open election after 8 years of a prior Democrat president. Hillary has to overcome this. On top of that, Obama fatigue will be intense by 2016. Hillary has to overcome this. Additionally, Hillary brings her own truck full of baggage to the race, and she has to overcome that. She also will be 69, but looks more like 79, and has the appearance of someone you might be more apt to find slumped over in a wheelchair in the hallway of a nursing home than someone running for president. She has to overcome this too.
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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2015, 04:59:38 PM »

Historical precedent shows how hard it is for a Democrat president to be elected in an open election after 8 years of a prior Democrat president. Hillary has to overcome this. On top of that, Obama fatigue will be intense by 2016. Hillary has to overcome this. Additionally, Hillary brings her own truck full of baggage to the race, and she has to overcome that. She also will be 69, but looks more like 79, and has the appearance of someone you might be more apt to find slumped over in a wheelchair in the hallway of a nursing home than someone running for president. She has to overcome this too.

Yes, Obama's noted HORRIBLE 45-50 approval rating. Can you see with your crystal ball that it's going to get much worse? Roll Eyes You realize McCain got 46% even when Bush was at 25% approval, correct?

As for the attacks on age and appearance...well, I can only hope the GOP uses that strategy.
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« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2015, 05:32:51 PM »

I think the state of the economy matters more than anything else, and if nothing else, Democrats can run on the recovery, which has gone much better than economists predicted and the GOP hoped.
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« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2015, 05:40:39 PM »

Historical precedent shows how hard it is for a Democrat president to be elected in an open election after 8 years of a prior Democrat president. Hillary has to overcome this. On top of that, Obama fatigue will be intense by 2016. Hillary has to overcome this. Additionally, Hillary brings her own truck full of baggage to the race, and she has to overcome that. She also will be 69, but looks more like 79, and has the appearance of someone you might be more apt to find slumped over in a wheelchair in the hallway of a nursing home than someone running for president. She has to overcome this too.

Can we ban this troll please?
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« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2015, 06:49:59 PM »

Historical precedent shows how hard it is for a Democrat president to be elected in an open election after 8 years of a prior Democrat president. Hillary has to overcome this. On top of that, Obama fatigue will be intense by 2016. Hillary has to overcome this. Additionally, Hillary brings her own truck full of baggage to the race, and she has to overcome that. She also will be 69, but looks more like 79, and has the appearance of someone you might be more apt to find slumped over in a wheelchair in the hallway of a nursing home than someone running for president. She has to overcome this too.

Not to mention the bruising she could take in the primary with Webb/Chafee attacking her on defense, and O'Malley and Sanders attacking her on money.
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« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2015, 07:09:36 PM »

Historical precedent shows how hard it is for a Democrat president to be elected in an open election after 8 years of a prior Democrat president. Hillary has to overcome this. On top of that, Obama fatigue will be intense by 2016. Hillary has to overcome this. Additionally, Hillary brings her own truck full of baggage to the race, and she has to overcome that. She also will be 69, but looks more like 79, and has the appearance of someone you might be more apt to find slumped over in a wheelchair in the hallway of a nursing home than someone running for president. She has to overcome this too.

Not to mention the bruising she could take in the primary with Webb/Chafee attacking her on defense, and O'Malley and Sanders attacking her on money.

If you think Hillary is going to take a "bruising" from Lincoln Chafee, then the GOP nominee is going to emerge as ground beef by the time the clown car is done with them.
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« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2015, 04:09:13 AM »

Paul performs better than any other Republican against Clinton, yet he is one of the least preferred by Republicans themselves. My god that is irritating.

And yeah, I guess Clinton won't win 400+ electoral votes after all.
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« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2015, 05:39:08 AM »

No need for handwringing. Paul has no real chance of winning the general election either so his having no chance to win the primary isn't some lost opportunity
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« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2015, 06:07:41 AM »

Sure. Paul's positions, past and present, would never stand up to scrutiny, nor would he- he makes more gaffes than Biden. He's also sort of a paranoid lunatic and surrounds himself with others, though I can't blame him given his upbringing. And both parties' establishments would help beat him, in daylight or behind the scenes. He's especially a poor fit for Ohio, Florida and Virginia and would lose all 3. Even you would be supporting Hillary by next summer, though I expect that will happen regardless of who the GOP nominates.
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« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2015, 07:59:22 AM »

Historical precedent shows how hard it is for a Democrat president to be elected in an open election after 8 years of a prior Democrat president. Hillary has to overcome this. On top of that, Obama fatigue will be intense by 2016. Hillary has to overcome this. Additionally, Hillary brings her own truck full of baggage to the race, and she has to overcome that. She also will be 69, but looks more like 79, and has the appearance of someone you might be more apt to find slumped over in a wheelchair in the hallway of a nursing home than someone running for president. She has to overcome this too.

Yes, Obama's noted HORRIBLE 45-50 approval rating. Can you see with your crystal ball that it's going to get much worse? Roll Eyes You realize McCain got 46% even when Bush was at 25% approval, correct?

As for the attacks on age and appearance...well, I can only hope the GOP uses that strategy.

The 'horrible' 45-50 approval rating is good enough to allow him to be re-elected if he could run for a Third Term and sought it. Plenty of Republican Senators have approval ratings in the 30s now and seem to have good chances of re-election.

As for appearance -- Ronald Reagan was in worse mental shape in 1980, and nobody but insiders knew that.
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« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2015, 05:28:03 PM »

Historical precedent shows how hard it is for a Democrat president to be elected in an open election after 8 years of a prior Democrat president. Hillary has to overcome this. On top of that, Obama fatigue will be intense by 2016. Hillary has to overcome this. Additionally, Hillary brings her own truck full of baggage to the race, and she has to overcome that. She also will be 69, but looks more like 79, and has the appearance of someone you might be more apt to find slumped over in a wheelchair in the hallway of a nursing home than someone running for president. She has to overcome this too.

You do realize that that is the base of the Republican party right ?


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« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2015, 06:18:30 PM »

quinnipiac is garbage.
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