MW1: Fifth Most Serene Republic of the Midwest Constitution

[TNF]

I like it, but would someone be willing to sponsor this for me?

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I think that 'Legislative Assembly' is a good replacement name for Althing. I'd like to replace the title 'Archduke' as well with something less...medieval. Any ideas?

[Senator Cris]

The fact that the Governor is proposing an amendment with executive orders confirms that currently the Governor has not the power to issue executive orders.

However, I'd like to say a thing as citizen of this region. Executive orders exists in the United States, but I have the fear that Governor TNF could abuse of this power. Yesterday, the Governor issued 10 executive orders and most of these executive orders have as arguments things that in my opinion should be debated by the legislative body prior to be laws.

[TNF]

The fact that the Governor is proposing an amendment with executive orders confirms that currently the Governor has not the power to issue executive orders.

However, I'd like to say a thing as citizen of this region. Executive orders exists in the United States, but I have the fear that Governor TNF could abuse of this power. Yesterday, the Governor issued 10 executive orders and most of these executive orders have as arguments things that in my opinion should be debated by the legislative body prior to be laws.

No it doesn't. It simply clears up the legal issues surrounding the issuance of said orders. I'd rather it be explicit than (as I have argued) implicit, as is now the case.

None of the orders that I issued cannot be taken up as legislative items or repealed by legislative action. Your concerns are entirely unfounded.

[Maxwell]

Other regions have executive orders, so obviously it's something that does exist. However, I feel like making executive orders so expansive allows the Governor to be far more powerful than the legislature, which effectively neuter their ability. Hopefully we can make some sort of limitation to the ability executive orders have.

Either way, I was planning the name change for the Althing later on, so as to correct every appearance in the Constitution. I am fine with Legislative Assembly.

[Maxwell]

I will accept the changes to my amendment.

[Dereich]

My suggestion as far as executive orders is something like this:

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Any proposal giving the executive full lawmaking authority is unacceptable; that power exclusively lies with the legislature. As with the dormant commerce clause, just because the legislature isn't using its power doesn't mean any other body has a right to take that power for itself.

[Maxwell]

That's great wording Dereich, and I absolutely agree.

[TNF]

I'm fine with that, as it would only really impact a few of the orders I issued, assuming they're unconstitutional under the current constitution (and I'm not convinced that they are, FYI)

[TNF]

We need someone to process these amendments. Y'all have to elect a PPT.

[TNF]

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[TNF]

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[Maxwell]

I like most of this. But the street signs thing confuses me - are you giving citizens the power to make street signs?

[TNF]

I like most of this. But the street signs thing confuses me - are you giving citizens the power to make street signs?

Just to have them in the language of their choice. Basically to allow localities to print signs in whatever language is appropriate for their area.

[Gass3268]

I nominate Maxwell for PPT.

[Maxwell]

I nominate Maxwell for PPT.

Actually, that nomination should probably go...

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=175424.200

there

But I will accept

[TNF]

Would you mind processing these amendments, Maxwell?

[Maxwell]

I'll just start this from the beginning

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Sponsor: Maxwell, with changes from TNF and Dereich
Awaiting objections within the evening.

If there are no objections by evening time (when I will be back online in a capacity where I can get things through), I will do a full thing for TNF's bigger amendment.

[TNF]

Thank you, Maxwell.

[Maxwell]

With no objections, the amendment passes.

Next up the bigger amendment,

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[Maxwell]

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Sponsor: Governor TNF

I'm allowing 24 hours for objections and/or changes to this amendment.

[TNF]

After that amendment is processed, I think we're good to go, unless anyone else has anything they'd like to add.

[ilikeverin]

I find this Deeply Disturbing, for many reasons, most especially the establishment of official languages in the Most Serene Republic.

[TNF]

I find this Deeply Disturbing, for many reasons, most especially the establishment of official languages in the Most Serene Republic.

I'm certainly willing to address concerns you might have insofar as they do not conflict with the overall goal of constitutional reform.

Why are you concerned about official languages?

[Gass3268]

I'll just start this from the beginning

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Sponsor: Maxwell, with changes from TNF and Dereich
Awaiting objections within the evening.

If there are no objections by evening time (when I will be back online in a capacity where I can get things through), I will do a full thing for TNF's bigger amendment.

Your amendment uses the term 'Althing' even though the objective of it was to change it to Legislative Assembly throughout the document.

[Maxwell]

I'll just start this from the beginning

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Sponsor: Maxwell, with changes from TNF and Dereich
Awaiting objections within the evening.

If there are no objections by evening time (when I will be back online in a capacity where I can get things through), I will do a full thing for TNF's bigger amendment.

Your amendment uses the term 'Althing' even though the objective of it was to change it to Legislative Assembly throughout the document.

I see it, and we can make that minor change next.

I will allow time for objections for the current amendment from legislators and or changes, but beyond that if I don't hear anything by 9:00 PM (my time), TNF's amendment will go through.