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« on: April 11, 2015, 07:02:50 AM »
« edited: April 14, 2015, 05:50:40 PM by NE Speaker DKrol »

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Debate will last for 72 hours.

Rep. Clyde1998, you have 36 hours to advocate for your bill.
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2015, 07:24:46 AM »

First of all, I should explain what controlled assessments are - as I think they are taken outside the UK: Controlled assessments measure subject-specific skills that cannot always be tested by timed written exam papers. They were introduced to replace coursework.

I feel that controlled assessments should be made available for those who wish to sit them, because certain subjects can't test people in a real life situation in exam conditions. For example, exams don't test people's abilities to work with other people - a very important life skill.

Controlled assessments should be seen as an equal to exams, but they're aimed at those who prefer to spread their work load over the year - as opposed to a couple of hours at the end of the year. It would also reduce exam phobias.

Some subjects may benefit from having both exams and controlled assessments as part of the course - the exam to test theory and the controlled assessment for practical work.

Can the sponsor clarify a bit more? Does this prevent teachers from setting a mandatory final exam for their classes or is it only for standardized testing?
The bill relates to standardized testing in terms of progress through the school, but it doesn't prevent teachers from setting exams (exclusively) in their classes.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2015, 07:38:46 AM »

Am I understanding this correctly in that the bill applies to tests like MCAS - the Massachusetts Comprehensive Assessment System - which is mandated by the state and is taken in grades 3-8, and then again in 10, rather than the exams teachers make to summarize their course at the end?
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2015, 12:07:54 PM »

Am I understanding this correctly in that the bill applies to tests like MCAS - the Massachusetts Comprehensive Assessment System - which is mandated by the state and is taken in grades 3-8, and then again in 10, rather than the exams teachers make to summarize their course at the end?
That's what I'm proposing at this point, yes.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2015, 11:54:26 PM »

Does this bill also cover AP/IB tests which might required by schools if students take an AP/IB class? (I ask because my school does that to prevent students from taking the class so they can have it on their transcript while flunking the test.)
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2015, 06:42:11 AM »

Does this bill also cover AP/IB tests which might required by schools if students take an AP/IB class? (I ask because my school does that to prevent students from taking the class so they can have it on their transcript while flunking the test.)
Looking at the list of subjects offered in these courses - I feel that some would benefit from controlled assessments. For example: English and French.

I wouldn't rule them out for AP/IB tests, but if people wish from them not to be included - I'll be happy to modify the bill.
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2015, 01:57:41 PM »

Does this bill also cover AP/IB tests which might required by schools if students take an AP/IB class? (I ask because my school does that to prevent students from taking the class so they can have it on their transcript while flunking the test.)
Looking at the list of subjects offered in these courses - I feel that some would benefit from controlled assessments. For example: English and French.

I wouldn't rule them out for AP/IB tests, but if people wish from them not to be included - I'll be happy to modify the bill.

I believe that AP/IB tests are required if you take the course? Or is that a school-by-school decision?
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2015, 02:02:47 PM »

Does this bill also cover AP/IB tests which might required by schools if students take an AP/IB class? (I ask because my school does that to prevent students from taking the class so they can have it on their transcript while flunking the test.)
Looking at the list of subjects offered in these courses - I feel that some would benefit from controlled assessments. For example: English and French.

I wouldn't rule them out for AP/IB tests, but if people wish from them not to be included - I'll be happy to modify the bill.

I believe that AP/IB tests are required if you take the course? Or is that a school-by-school decision?
From what I've seen it's based on school-by-school decisions, but I'm not 100% sure.
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2015, 07:07:41 PM »

Representative Clyde1998, I support you on this bill.

If it is voted on before the end of this legislative session, I will vote in favor of it.

As you know, the Assembly election is this up coming weekend. 
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2015, 11:59:16 PM »

Does this bill also cover AP/IB tests which might required by schools if students take an AP/IB class? (I ask because my school does that to prevent students from taking the class so they can have it on their transcript while flunking the test.)
Looking at the list of subjects offered in these courses - I feel that some would benefit from controlled assessments. For example: English and French.

I wouldn't rule them out for AP/IB tests, but if people wish from them not to be included - I'll be happy to modify the bill.

I believe that AP/IB tests are required if you take the course? Or is that a school-by-school decision?

School-by-school decision. I offer this amendment:

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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2015, 11:48:19 AM »

Does this bill also cover AP/IB tests which might required by schools if students take an AP/IB class? (I ask because my school does that to prevent students from taking the class so they can have it on their transcript while flunking the test.)
Looking at the list of subjects offered in these courses - I feel that some would benefit from controlled assessments. For example: English and French.

I wouldn't rule them out for AP/IB tests, but if people wish from them not to be included - I'll be happy to modify the bill.

I believe that AP/IB tests are required if you take the course? Or is that a school-by-school decision?

School-by-school decision. I offer this amendment:

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I'm happy with that amendment.
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2015, 02:16:36 PM »

Clyde1998, are you accepting this as friendly?
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2015, 05:39:28 PM »

Clyde1998, are you accepting this as friendly?
Yes.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2015, 05:51:18 PM »

With that, debate has ended. We will now move to a 24 hour vote, or until all members have voted.
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2015, 08:38:54 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2015, 09:05:45 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2015, 10:19:52 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2015, 01:42:34 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2015, 06:57:38 PM »

With 4 Ayes and One member not voting, the bill passes and will be forwarded to the Governor.
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2015, 10:25:09 PM »

Has Matt from VT gone on a fact finding mission to North Korea? 
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