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America Needs R'hllor
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« on: September 05, 2017, 03:18:21 AM »
« edited: September 05, 2017, 03:21:29 AM by Parrotguy »

The reason why she's lost Dorne is that without Yara's fleet there's no reasonable way to get a significant force of Dornishmen north.

They can march north through the Boneway- then they only need to march through the Stormlands, which aren't very mighty after the way, and reach King's Landing. Or, they could march through Prince's Pass and march through the Reach, which is also not much of a threat after the turmoil of the treachery against Olenna.
Of course, all of this is null, because the show doesn't care about logic or geography when it doesn't fit the plot they have in mind.


Riverlands-Robert Arryn
Stormlands-nobody, Gendry at the end of next season
Dorne-nobody I guess....or some Lord from one of the more important secondary houses...lets say, Edric Dayne

There are a couple more things here that are kind of dumb re: the show's handling of those kingdoms:

1) Why is it that when Yara's fleet is sunk by Euron and the Martells are captured, Dany says that she's "lost Dorne"?  Wouldn't there still be someone left in charge in Dorne to take over, and why wouldn't they continue to back Dany?

2) Why on Earth were no representatives from these kingdoms (Dorne, Riverlands, Stormlands, Reach, the Vale) invited to the big summit in the finale?  Sansa gets invited and sends Brienne, but her invitation makes no sense, since Jon is already there to represent the North.  Yet no one from the aforementioned kingdoms is invited to see a zombie for themselves?  It seems nonsensical.


1. That's true, but about the "someone left in charge"- I don't think that kind of logic can apply to Dorne. Its lords are basically ignored. I mean, the Sand Snakes murdered the entire Martell line in the dumbest move ever, but no one cared and they just took over Dorne as if all's normal? It's BS.
2. Because the show underestimates its watchers and thinks they can't handle some complexity. Or they're just too lazy to write these kingdoms in and think logically about how they can fit in the plot.
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America Needs R'hllor
Parrotguy
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E: -4.13, S: -3.48

« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2017, 04:11:52 AM »

Now that we know for certain that Jamie Lannister isn't going to be the Valonqar snuffing the life from Queen Cersei, that leaves two possibilities:

1. Sandor 'the Hound' Clegane (someone has to kill the Mountain to get at the Queen)

2. Arya Stark (Winterfell is admittedly a long ways away from Kings Landing, but it's the show....)

Which of the two do you think is more likely to do the deed? Or do they act together as a team once they meet up again?

And of course, one also has to factor in that Kings Landing is likely to be an active war zone as betrayal is met with betrayal, and the Golden Company (secretly already in alliance with Daenerys and Aegon Targaryen -assuming it is anything like the book version) turns on Cersei.  

I'm still holding out hope that it's gonna be Jaime. Like you said, Winterfell is a long ways from KL, but it's the show. If not Jaime, it's probably the baby, and then a tie between Tyrion and Arya. Really hoping it's not Arya, though.
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America Needs R'hllor
Parrotguy
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Posts: 11,442
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E: -4.13, S: -3.48

« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2017, 12:07:07 PM »

There are various minor characters who are still alive but who could, conceivably, not be shown again, depending on what the endgame focuses on.  What do you think is the probability that we'll ever again see the following characters?:


1) Daario- 30%
2) Meera Reed- 35%
3) Howland Reed- 10%
4) Robin Arryn- 60%
5) Edmure Tully- 50%
6) Gendry- 100%
7) Dolorous Edd- 99%
8 ) Sam's mother- 40%
9) Hot Pie- 25%
10) Nymeria- 10%
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