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« on: April 12, 2015, 08:47:53 PM »

Yes (pro-discrimination far-right homophobe)
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2015, 09:20:59 PM »

I've always supported it.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2015, 09:22:43 PM »

I've supported it since 2008.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2015, 09:26:09 PM »

I favored repeal of DOMA beginning in December 2009 though I can't say I was actively supporting it until mid-2011 or so. Yes regardless.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2015, 09:27:02 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2015, 09:28:54 PM »

Anyway, what Democrat didn't come out in support of gay marriage before Hillary Clinton? If you exclude the handful of Dixiecrats left and maybe a couple of other weirdos, she was dead last.
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2015, 09:29:46 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2015, 09:29:55 PM »

Yes, it was probably around 2010 or so, whenever it became obvious that it was going to happen nationally.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2015, 09:44:47 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2015, 09:46:52 PM »

I've supported it as long as I can remember. At least since 2000 when I had a friend come out of the closet as gay and then receive hellish treatment over it. I mean before that, I didn't know anything about it. I mean, that was about the time everyone started puberty and before that, I never even thought about it one way or another. My family didn't discuss it and I never saw it anywhere, so I didn't even really understand what gay was before puberty.

But seeing my friend treated badly because he was attracted to guys... I thought it was unjust. He'd get punched and pushed around and it wasn't right.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2015, 10:09:31 PM »

Anyway, what Democrat didn't come out in support of gay marriage before Hillary Clinton? If you exclude the handful of Dixiecrats left and maybe a couple of other weirdos, she was dead last.

A SoS is traditionally supposed to stay out of domestic politics, so it made sense she would announce it after she left office. But yeah, it was SO cowardly of her to be a FULL YEAR behind Obama, who made the bravest stand ever. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2015, 10:13:07 PM »

I've supported it as long as I can remember.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2015, 10:19:10 PM »

I assumed my mom's best friend and his boyfriend were married just like any couple as a 4 year old.  I was rather surprised to find out just how much society hated Rob and his boyfriend.  I was terrified and horrified when I realized that was me too.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2015, 10:21:46 PM »

I don't think I was ever against it. I believe I formulated an opinion about it c. 2002.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2015, 10:36:22 PM »

With as much as she's waffled on every issue, it's impossible to tell. I've never had a problem with gay marriage. I'm sure she's had problems with it when speaking to some crowds like in December 2002 when she dodged a question from Chris Matthews regarding "separate but equal" as his words. I know one thing, I supported faithful marriages before her husband did.
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2015, 05:24:05 AM »

What is it?
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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2015, 08:00:03 AM »
« Edited: April 13, 2015, 09:40:24 AM by DS0816 »

Perhaps.

Hillary Clinton is older than me.

I don't know how long she has actually been supportive.
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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2015, 08:02:29 AM »

Yes (normal)
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2015, 08:09:17 AM »
« Edited: April 13, 2015, 08:15:59 AM by Gravis Marketing »

Probably since the late 1990s, which means before something like 90% of Democrats who support it now.

shua, I understand what you're going for here, but I think I can speak for all gays who aren't parody troll accounts here by saying that we recognize that people have to evolve on this issue, just as Obama and our family members have. While Hillary Clinton was unusually risk-averse, she's come around and become a strong advocate, and that's what matters now.

I voted for Hillary over Obama in 2008 in part because of Obama's reluctance on this issue—at least with Hillary, I knew I would get caution and cynicism. Obama has surprised me by embracing gay rights in his second term.
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2015, 08:12:19 AM »

Unfortunately no.
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2015, 08:29:46 AM »
« Edited: April 13, 2015, 08:32:36 AM by Torie »

I supported it from the moment I spent any time thinking about the issue, which would have been when it first gained currency as an issue across the Fruited Plain, which would have been about the same time I guess as Brittain33.  From my teenage days really, I never understood the obsession about sexual preference (I mean I understood it, but found it irrational, and certainly not data based in any substantive way, as opposed to prejudice and fear based). Who should really care whom others are attracted to, if they are not hurting anybody?
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2015, 08:36:08 AM »

I supported it from the moment I spent any time thinking about the issue, which would have been when it first gained currency as an issue across the Fruited Plain, which would have been about the same time I guess as Brittain33.

When it first came up as a localized issue in Hawaii that was covered in the gay media such as The Advocate, which probably would have been around 1996, I did not instinctively accept it. It was too far out there of an idea for me even though I was out and in same-sex relationships. I thought it was asking for too much and not what "marriage" meant. I was still in college at the time.

By the time the focus shifted from the aborted case in Hawaii (1998) to the partially successful case in Vermont (2000), I'd progressed to accepting it, too. But I was very naive and did not consider that there would be a big backlash, that politicians and really the majority of Americans wouldn't just accept these cases but would fight back actively. I really thought Vermont should go for marriage rather than for civil unions because then anyone could get married in VT and bring it home with them!
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2015, 09:02:25 AM »


I will never be a democrat, even if I am as far left as Sanders.

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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2015, 09:32:34 AM »

Weirdly, yes.
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« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2015, 10:33:25 AM »

I honestly think that I started support gay marriage roughly the same time as her (...not because of her though...)
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