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Prince of Salem
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« on: April 14, 2015, 11:36:12 AM »

After this unacceptable act of power abuse:

POIROT ARRESTED

Perhaps the best known perennial candidate in contemporary Atlasian politics, Poirot, was arrested by the Pacific Police for violating Governor Simfan's executive order against bronyism. Mr. Simfan had announced a while back that Poirot will be placed under arrest if he ever returns to Pacific.

According to the regional police, Poirot, who had just escaped arrest while on campaign tour, attempted to come back, while the last statement from his campaign claims he was in Mideast.

There is however an undeniable proof if his capture: he was shown to the press while sitting in a holding cell.

It only makes sense that we all come together in a crusade for real justice.

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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2015, 11:41:03 AM »

Disgusting. The whole Pacific government is rotten to the core. Put bgwah back in charge of things.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2015, 11:58:32 AM »

     Give us back Poirot!
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2015, 01:49:53 PM »

Seems like a smart move in the interest of public health imo
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2015, 02:38:03 PM »

Free my dawg
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Unconditional Surrender Truman
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2015, 03:20:40 PM »

If Mr. Poirot is not released immediately, the consequences will be grave indeed:

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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2015, 03:22:49 PM »

Surely he has the right to appeal to the Supreme Court, doesn't he?
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2015, 04:00:07 PM »

Surely he has the right to appeal to the Supreme Court, doesn't he?

He wasn't charged with anything, AFAIK.
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2015, 04:34:05 PM »

Surely he has the right to appeal to the Supreme Court, doesn't he?

He wasn't charged with anything, AFAIK.

Well, then he can sue the Pacific for unlawful arrest? Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2015, 04:34:51 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2015, 04:47:31 PM »

Surely he has the right to appeal to the Supreme Court, doesn't he?

He wasn't charged with anything, AFAIK.

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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2015, 05:19:03 PM »

Surely he has the right to appeal to the Supreme Court, doesn't he?

He wasn't charged with anything, AFAIK.

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The Governor and some of those supporting arrest argue it was a case of protecting the public health, which, I believe, can be considered a "public satefy" issue.

Not that I support any side of the issue, just saying it would make a wonderful constitutional question Wink
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2015, 05:31:06 PM »

I'm pretty sure that arresting people and then releasing them without charge (for instance if there is no case to answer or no serious chance of a conviction) is perfectly constitutional.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2015, 06:25:21 PM »

Surely he has the right to appeal to the Supreme Court, doesn't he?

He wasn't charged with anything, AFAIK.

Well, then he can sue the Pacific for unlawful arrest? Tongue

Not if charges are pending.
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2015, 06:31:10 PM »

x Adam



Didn't Simfan acquire these powers during the rebellion period? The same rebellion period when he illegally invaded Midwest territory and somehow never faced any sort of criminal charges?
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2015, 08:52:39 PM »

x Adam



Didn't Simfan acquire these powers during the rebellion period? The same rebellion period when he illegally invaded Midwest territory and somehow never faced any sort of criminal charges?

Simfan was pardoned, just like you were.
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2015, 09:54:19 PM »

x Adam



Didn't Simfan acquire these powers during the rebellion period? The same rebellion period when he illegally invaded Midwest territory and somehow never faced any sort of criminal charges?

Simfan was pardoned, just like you were.

I'm nearly positive his actions were after the fact, and I never did anything illegal.
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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2015, 09:58:51 PM »

Time to send in the gang of Southern toughs I hired. Evil
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2015, 07:39:01 AM »

x Adam



Didn't Simfan acquire these powers during the rebellion period? The same rebellion period when he illegally invaded Midwest territory and somehow never faced any sort of criminal charges?

Simfan was pardoned, just like you were.

I'm nearly positive his actions were after the fact, and I never did anything illegal.

Ah, my bad, if he did stuff after the pardon than that's a different story.  Just FTR, I was referring to you having a militia invade the South and attempt to assassinate Enderman during the Great Chaos (which occurred prior to President Tyrion's blanket pardon of all participants).  In fairness there were some folks who did stuff after the pardon, but I thought they were all prosecuted (Snowstalker and Alfred come to mind although the latter shouldn't have been charged, IMO).  I admit that it's possible I am misremembering and that Simfan committed illegal activities after the pardon and was never prosecuted.
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2015, 07:42:31 AM »

You're not misremembering. At no time did I do anything illegal.
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2015, 08:20:03 AM »

You're not misremembering. At no time did I do anything illegal.

Yes, you did. You continued to order your militia to seize territory in the Midwest after the blanket pardon had been issued.

I encourage everyone to read The Atlasian Laborinth for the deeply disturbing details.

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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2015, 12:49:33 PM »

You're not misremembering. At no time did I do anything illegal.

Yes, you did. You continued to order your militia to seize territory in the Midwest after the blanket pardon had been issued.

I encourage everyone to read The Atlasian Laborinth for the deeply disturbing details.



He sent the militia into the Midwest before the pardon - illegal, maybe, but a) under the assumption that Midwest Governor LeBron was a traitor to President Tyrion and strong unrest in that region threatening to jump over to the Pacific and b) pardoned
He did not send any further illegal, if you want to take that name, orders to the militia after the pardon.
He did order the militia to retreat after President Tyrion asked him to.

No illegal activities by Pacific Governor Simfan.
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2015, 04:38:56 PM »

You're not misremembering. At no time did I do anything illegal.

Yes, you did. You continued to order your militia to seize territory in the Midwest after the blanket pardon had been issued.

I encourage everyone to read The Atlasian Laborinth for the deeply disturbing details.



He sent the militia into the Midwest before the pardon - illegal, maybe, but a) under the assumption that Midwest Governor LeBron was a traitor to President Tyrion and strong unrest in that region threatening to jump over to the Pacific and b) pardoned
He did not send any further illegal, if you want to take that name, orders to the militia after the pardon.
He did order the militia to retreat after President Tyrion asked him to.

No illegal activities by Pacific Governor Simfan.

That's like getting a pardon for raping someone in the middle of the act and then saying "hold up lemme finish this doesn't count anymore"



Naturally, the pardon I issued is in part because of this revelation; as I have now become President, I believe it is my duty to absolve all of any wrongdoing in the matter.


Executive Order 10-07

The forces under regional command are instructed to continue their securing the regions of Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Kansas, and Nebrska, as well as the states of the neighboring region lately secured, in the name of the Federal Government as opposed to the outlaws.

A military administrator will be appointed for the secured regions shortly.

I prefer "do not quote laws to us, for we carry swords".

All executive orders are maintained. We shall proceed with the securing of the states of the neighboring region.

He continued to maintain the existing executive orders of invasion while issuing multiple, new executive orders after the pardon. It doesn't matter what he thought about another region's Governor; if all of the other executives had felt the same way, would that make it lawful? What about if they had all felt that way about his region? His one and only executive order after the pardon should have been to withdraw all troops immediately.
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