By 2:1 ratio, Republicans are more loyal to Israel than US

[Joe Republic]

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[Adam Griffin]

[IceSpear]

Can you imagine FOX's reaction if Democrats said they were more loyal to another country than the US when Bush was president?

[Brewer]

Absolutely disgusting.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

I thought it would be a 5:1 ratio, I'm pleasantly surprised!

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Can you imagine FOX's reaction if Democrats said they were more loyal to another country than the US when Bush was president?

Don't you see, IceSpear?  The well-intentioned Republicans are loyal to our CONSTITUTION and IDEALS and PRINCIPLES, unwavering support for the Jewish state for example, not that monkey nigg*r celebrity in the White House.

[Beet]

Barack Obama & Palestinians = brown, you see.

[Horus]

This is why I hate the accusations of antisemitism when I say someone is more loyal to Israel than America. As shown here, a large portion of the country is just that!

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I shudder to think what would happen if war ever broke out.

[bedstuy]

That is an outrageous misinterpretation of that answer. 

I think obviously what people meant was that we should support Israel's right to exist and defend itself militarily, as we would for any country.  It's not that we think Israel's interests come first, it's that we stand on some sort of principle in our foreign policy. 

Imagine if we were talking about the UK.  Would we help defend the UK, even if it was inconvenient or expensive?  Sure.  We compete with the UK as a fellow power in global finance.  Suppose we uncovered a plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange.  Would we keep that information secret if we thought it would bolster New York's position as a center of finance?  Of course not. 

There is always a balance between your national self-interest and maintaining baseline principles in the international realm. 

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

It's a strange definition of loyalty.  The poll question options aren't even mutually inconsistent.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Ugh. Thank God the baby boomers will be dead in thirty years.

[Indy Texas]

There is always a balance between your national self-interest and maintaining baseline principles in the international realm. 

We've never had a problem throwing baseline support for democracies out the window when conducting "regime changes." The former prime minister of Iran would like a word with you if he were still alive, as would several South American heads of state.

Foreign policy is about nothing more than self-interest. We'll support a dictator who rapes babies and eats political dissidents alive if it facilitates our strategic goals. And that is as it should be.

[Sumner 1868]

There is always a balance between your national self-interest and maintaining baseline principles in the international realm. 

We've never had a problem throwing baseline support for democracies out the window when conducting "regime changes." The former prime minister of Iran would like a word with you if he were still alive, as would several South American heads of state.

Foreign policy is about nothing more than self-interest. We'll support a dictator who rapes babies and eats political dissidents alive if it facilitates our strategic goals. And that is as it should be.

No, that's not how it should be. We learned that on 9/11/2001.

[Ban my account ffs!]

That is an outrageous misinterpretation of that answer. 

I think obviously what people meant was that we should support Israel's right to exist and defend itself militarily, as we would for any country.  It's not that we think Israel's interests come first, it's that we stand on some sort of principle in our foreign policy. 

Imagine if we were talking about the UK.  Would we help defend the UK, even if it was inconvenient or expensive?  Sure.  We compete with the UK as a fellow power in global finance.  Suppose we uncovered a plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange.  Would we keep that information secret if we thought it would bolster New York's position as a center of finance?  Of course not. 

There is always a balance between your national self-interest and maintaining baseline principles in the international realm. 

If thats your interpretation, you're in the wrong party.

Fundies only tolerate Jews because of the Holocaust and they only want Israel in place so it can be attacked and usher in the end times.  They also have an odd juxtaposition cuz Murica diesnt figure into the end times as a great power, so far as they believe...as they think us abandoning the UN designated state named Israel means our downfall...they cant be hopeful of Israel's destruction without it signaling ours...thats why They hope so much the rapture comes first..

They also are infatuated with the suffering of Jesus...a good Republican American not unlike Toby Keith (ha...) who was tortured and killed by some uppity Jews.

They won't say this of course...but ive spent enough time with these people and their 'Jews for Jesus' tagalongs to get the jist of it.

The better intentioned ones think you need more suffering which will make you accept Jesus.  It's sad when Jews die cuz they are burning as we speak!

So...are you sure you know what you think they meant?

[Maxwell]

We shouldn't support Israel.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

That is an outrageous misinterpretation of that answer. 

I think obviously what people meant was that we should support Israel's right to exist and defend itself militarily, as we would for any country.  It's not that we think Israel's interests come first, it's that we stand on some sort of principle in our foreign policy. 

Imagine if we were talking about the UK.  Would we help defend the UK, even if it was inconvenient or expensive?  Sure.  We compete with the UK as a fellow power in global finance.  Suppose we uncovered a plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange.  Would we keep that information secret if we thought it would bolster New York's position as a center of finance?  Of course not. 

There is always a balance between your national self-interest and maintaining baseline principles in the international realm. 

If thats your interpretation, you're in the wrong party.

Fundies only tolerate Jews because of the Holocaust and they only want Israel in place so it can be attacked and usher in the end times.  They also have an odd juxtaposition cuz Murica diesnt figure into the end times as a great power, so far as they believe...as they think us abandoning the UN designated state named Israel means our downfall...they cant be hopeful of Israel's destruction without it signaling ours...thats why They hope so much the rapture comes first..

They also are infatuated with the suffering of Jesus...a good Republican American not unlike Toby Keith (ha...) who was tortured and killed by some uppity Jews.

They won't say this of course...but ive spent enough time with these people and their 'Jews for Jesus' tagalongs to get the jist of it.

The better intentioned ones think you need more suffering which will make you accept Jesus.  It's sad when Jews die cuz they are burning as we speak!

So...are you sure you know what you think they meant?

For most Christian Zionists, it's enough to them that they believe God promised the land to Israel, and obscure eschatological timelines barely enter into it.

[RFayette]

That is an outrageous misinterpretation of that answer. 

I think obviously what people meant was that we should support Israel's right to exist and defend itself militarily, as we would for any country.  It's not that we think Israel's interests come first, it's that we stand on some sort of principle in our foreign policy. 

Imagine if we were talking about the UK.  Would we help defend the UK, even if it was inconvenient or expensive?  Sure.  We compete with the UK as a fellow power in global finance.  Suppose we uncovered a plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange.  Would we keep that information secret if we thought it would bolster New York's position as a center of finance?  Of course not. 

There is always a balance between your national self-interest and maintaining baseline principles in the international realm. 

If thats your interpretation, you're in the wrong party.

Fundies only tolerate Jews because of the Holocaust and they only want Israel in place so it can be attacked and usher in the end times.  They also have an odd juxtaposition cuz Murica diesnt figure into the end times as a great power, so far as they believe...as they think us abandoning the UN designated state named Israel means our downfall...they cant be hopeful of Israel's destruction without it signaling ours...thats why They hope so much the rapture comes first..

They also are infatuated with the suffering of Jesus...a good Republican American not unlike Toby Keith (ha...) who was tortured and killed by some uppity Jews.

They won't say this of course...but ive spent enough time with these people and their 'Jews for Jesus' tagalongs to get the jist of it.

The better intentioned ones think you need more suffering which will make you accept Jesus.  It's sad when Jews die cuz they are burning as we speak!

So...are you sure you know what you think they meant?

For most Christian Zionists, it's enough to them that they believe God promised the land to Israel, and obscure eschatological timelines barely enter into it.

This.  I'm not very religious at all, but I definitely have a major soft spot for Israel when it comes to most things because of its Abrahamic roots and the tradition of the land.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Yeah eschatological obscurity bad... Abrahamic Roots and clarity inducing "tradition of the land" good.

you got me so good guys

[Simfan34]

Funny how a lot of these people would not be comfortable if an actual Jewish person came to dinner.

Suppose we
uncovered a plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange.  Would we keep that information secret if we thought it would bolster New York's position as a center of finance?  Of course not.

We wouldn't? I'm not sure about that.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Funny how a lot of these people would not be comfortable if an actual Jewish person came to dinner.

Suppose we
uncovered a plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange.  Would we keep that information secret if we thought it would bolster New York's position as a center of finance?  Of course not.

We wouldn't? I'm not sure about that.

I bet you think Im an anti semite too...as well as racist and islamophobic.  My fear and hate knows no bounds!

[Zioneer]

I feel like Israel has a right to exist (and that other Middle Eastern nations should recognize that), but that they shouldn't be so harsh to Palestinians.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Full integration of all Israelis and Palestinians into one Israel with two judicial branches and a triple presidency (one palestinian, one israeli, one elected by all with a 60% minimum).  Call Belgium, Switzerland, and Italy and ask how they do it.  Let friendship root both sides out of the mire.

A two state solution seems unworkable so we might as well go all in.

[Stranger in a strange land]

That is an outrageous misinterpretation of that answer. 

I think obviously what people meant was that we should support Israel's right to exist and defend itself militarily, as we would for any country.  It's not that we think Israel's interests come first, it's that we stand on some sort of principle in our foreign policy. 

Imagine if we were talking about the UK.  Would we help defend the UK, even if it was inconvenient or expensive?  Sure.  We compete with the UK as a fellow power in global finance.  Suppose we uncovered a plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange.  Would we keep that information secret if we thought it would bolster New York's position as a center of finance?  Of course not. 

There is always a balance between your national self-interest and maintaining baseline principles in the international realm. 

If thats your interpretation, you're in the wrong party.

Fundies only tolerate Jews because of the Holocaust and they only want Israel in place so it can be attacked and usher in the end times.  They also have an odd juxtaposition cuz Murica diesnt figure into the end times as a great power, so far as they believe...as they think us abandoning the UN designated state named Israel means our downfall...they cant be hopeful of Israel's destruction without it signaling ours...thats why They hope so much the rapture comes first..

They also are infatuated with the suffering of Jesus...a good Republican American not unlike Toby Keith (ha...) who was tortured and killed by some uppity Jews.

They won't say this of course...but ive spent enough time with these people and their 'Jews for Jesus' tagalongs to get the jist of it.

The better intentioned ones think you need more suffering which will make you accept Jesus.  It's sad when Jews die cuz they are burning as we speak!

So...are you sure you know what you think they meant?

For most Christian Zionists, it's enough to them that they believe God promised the land to Israel, and obscure eschatological timelines barely enter into it.

The End Times stuff is a lot more prevalent in the South and Midwest than you might think.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

What a gross misinterpretation of the poll results. "support them even if our interests diverge" in no way means "more loyal".