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« on: April 17, 2015, 09:30:40 AM »

... called New Day for America.

CLEVELAND, Ohio - Gov. John Kasich is about to launch a national political committee that would allow him to raise money and his profile as he considers a run for president in 2016, sources close to the Republican said Thursday.

The effort, first reported on cleveland.com, has been in the works since Kasich's well-received visit last month to New Hampshire, which holds the first primary.

A source, who spoke to Northeast Ohio Media Group on the condition of anonymity, said the governor's team is "finishing work" and will register the organization soon. Another said the team is hammering out plans for an announcement.



Records show that a nonprofit called New Day for America incorporated this week with the Ohio secretary of state. The name is similar to one Kasich has used for his gubernatorial inaugural committee. The incorporator is listed as E. Mark Braden, an attorney and election-law specialist who has worked for Kasich before and who once served as chief counsel to the Republican National Committee.

New Day for America, according to the filing with the state, will operate as a "tax-exempt political organization" under Section 527 of the Internal Revenue Code.

This is not an official declaration of candidacy or a committee that will accept donations for a full-fledged Kasich-for-president campaign. Kasich will continue doing what he has been for months -- touring the country to gauge interest, test a message and test his own appetite for the grind of another national run.

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2015/04/john_kasich_preparing_to_launc.html
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2015, 09:51:05 AM »

The money might be interested in backing him over Bush, so that'll be interesting. However, his opponents can easily bash him as the only "RINO" who was willing to "implement" Obamacare and that might derail his chances.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2015, 09:53:21 AM »

He would be a strong candidate if he got into the race.

I agree.

If he can raise the money that is needed, I could definitely see him as the strongest candidate for the Republicans and a serious threat to Hillary in the general election.

Kasich actually seems to be a likeable person (I watched the CNN interview), unlike Walker - who's a dick and polarizing too.

He also appeals to working-class people and the working poor and tries to improve the lives of drug addicts and people with mental illness.

Rand Paul wants that too, but he has other problems like being to isolationist - which is another bonus for Kasich.

And the Bush name is just toxic ...

So, Kasich has the bonus on his side that he can appeal to Republicans and more Democrats and Indies than any of the other GOP candidates.
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2015, 09:56:11 AM »
« Edited: April 17, 2015, 09:58:07 AM by RogueBeaver »

Ugh. Huntsman Part II. Jeb would be preferable.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2015, 09:58:01 AM »


Not necessarily, if he and his campaign play it right.

A governor of OH is something bigger than a governor of UT ...
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2015, 10:12:01 AM »

He's more Huckabee than Huntsman which is why I'll be surprised if he can raise money.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2015, 10:18:26 AM »

Out of curiosity, have there been any polls that match up Hillary ad Kasich in Ohio?
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2015, 10:38:22 AM »

Quinnipiac did back in January, it was pretty close

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/oh/ohio_kasich_vs_clinton-4079.html
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2015, 10:41:31 AM »


I predict Kasich will become the GOP Establishment candidate. Bush is imploding. Politico had a article today that Rubio is tied with Bush in FL now.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2015, 11:48:36 AM »

Damn it, he would have a chance. Hopefully he is a poor fit for other swing states.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2015, 01:08:30 PM »

If someone wants to bet money on Kasich becoming the next POTUS, his winning quota is not bad right now:

1:80

I'm seriously considering investing 100€, to get 8000€ in case he gets elected ... Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2015, 01:24:33 PM »

Didn't Kasich sort of insult Iowa? Mind you it was mild criticism, but I can't imagine him catching fire there at least: http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/09/gov_john_kasich_is_not_exactly.html

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2015, 01:37:44 PM »
« Edited: April 17, 2015, 01:39:23 PM by Monarch »

Didn't Kasich sort of insult Iowa? Mind you it was mild criticism, but I can't imagine him catching fire there at least: http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/09/gov_john_kasich_is_not_exactly.html

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Kasich would be someone that banks on winning NH, so I don't think it would kill his campaign. Winning NH without a respectable finish (Top 4) in IA to give momentum is almost impossible, however, so that quote could be damage his chances significantly.
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2015, 02:57:36 PM »

Didn't Kasich sort of insult Iowa? Mind you it was mild criticism, but I can't imagine him catching fire there at least: http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/09/gov_john_kasich_is_not_exactly.html

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lol

I didn't think he would run - I thought he'd be this cycle's Mitch Daniels.  But he could make this race interesting.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2015, 03:47:40 PM »

Didn't Kasich sort of insult Iowa? Mind you it was mild criticism, but I can't imagine him catching fire there at least: http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/09/gov_john_kasich_is_not_exactly.html

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This is type of quote is exactly why Kasich won't win. He says these sort of things all the time.
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2015, 04:00:04 PM »

Great news!
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2015, 06:50:57 PM »

I'm actually somewhat worried about Kasich. He'd have a much better chance of beating Clinton than the likes of Rubio, Walker, Paul, or Cruz.
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2015, 11:45:17 PM »

Ugh. Huntsman Part II. Jeb would be preferable.
I strongly disagree with this comparison.

Huntsman comes off elitist and condescending. Kasich connects with a wide array of voters, and often frames his actions in a religious context ("Expanding Medicaid is the Christian thing to do, even if I support the repeal of Obamacare and replacement with the PCA") without being overly-religious (think GWB and Huckabee) about it.

^^

Exactly. Kasich, wherever he departs from conservative orthodoxy, tends to frame his arguments to argue that he actually has the conservative point of view in the argument. Kasich is a far cry from Huntsman who seemingly ran to make fun of Republicans and plug his future 'No Labels' group before it existed. Kasich will not attempt to win over the GOP electorate by insulting us.
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2015, 11:48:52 PM »

Ugh. Huntsman Part II. Jeb would be preferable.
I strongly disagree with this comparison.

Huntsman comes off elitist and condescending. Kasich connects with a wide array of voters, and often frames his actions in a religious context ("Expanding Medicaid is the Christian thing to do, even if I support the repeal of Obamacare and replacement with the PCA") without being overly-religious (think GWB and Huckabee) about it.

^^

Exactly. Kasich, wherever he departs from conservative orthodoxy, tends to frame his arguments to argue that he actually has the conservative point of view in the argument. Kasich is a far cry from Huntsman who seemingly ran to make fun of Republicans and plug his future 'No Labels' group before it existed. Kasich will not attempt to win over the GOP electorate by insulting us.

So Scott Walker without the stain of being Scott Walker?
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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2015, 11:50:26 PM »

Ugh. Huntsman Part II. Jeb would be preferable.
I strongly disagree with this comparison.

Huntsman comes off elitist and condescending. Kasich connects with a wide array of voters, and often frames his actions in a religious context ("Expanding Medicaid is the Christian thing to do, even if I support the repeal of Obamacare and replacement with the PCA") without being overly-religious (think GWB and Huckabee) about it.

You come off as elitist and condescending.

Huntsman's policies were orthodox conservative. They just were sensibly justified.
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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2015, 12:03:00 AM »

Ugh. Huntsman Part II. Jeb would be preferable.
I strongly disagree with this comparison.

Huntsman comes off elitist and condescending. Kasich connects with a wide array of voters, and often frames his actions in a religious context ("Expanding Medicaid is the Christian thing to do, even if I support the repeal of Obamacare and replacement with the PCA") without being overly-religious (think GWB and Huckabee) about it.

^^

Exactly. Kasich, wherever he departs from conservative orthodoxy, tends to frame his arguments to argue that he actually has the conservative point of view in the argument. Kasich is a far cry from Huntsman who seemingly ran to make fun of Republicans and plug his future 'No Labels' group before it existed. Kasich will not attempt to win over the GOP electorate by insulting us.

So Scott Walker without the stain of being Scott Walker?

Not really. Kasich was a bridge builder governor. Walker was a "we've got the votes, so we're going to do it now matter how much backlash there is" type of governor. Kasich tried being Walker his first year in office and it went poorly. After that point, he put his tail between his legs, begged forgiveness, and worked across the aisle.
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2015, 12:04:24 AM »

Ugh. Huntsman Part II. Jeb would be preferable.
I strongly disagree with this comparison.

Huntsman comes off elitist and condescending. Kasich connects with a wide array of voters, and often frames his actions in a religious context ("Expanding Medicaid is the Christian thing to do, even if I support the repeal of Obamacare and replacement with the PCA") without being overly-religious (think GWB and Huckabee) about it.

You come off as elitist and condescending.

Huntsman's policies were orthodox conservative. They just were sensibly justified.

Perhaps some of them were. Huntsman, whatever his policies might have been, ran as an unapologetic arrogrant prick who seemed to think that, obviously, the best way to convince people is by insulting them as often as possible.
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2015, 01:45:48 AM »

Ugh. Huntsman Part II. Jeb would be preferable.
I strongly disagree with this comparison.

Huntsman comes off elitist and condescending. Kasich connects with a wide array of voters, and often frames his actions in a religious context ("Expanding Medicaid is the Christian thing to do, even if I support the repeal of Obamacare and replacement with the PCA") without being overly-religious (think GWB and Huckabee) about it.

You come off as elitist and condescending.

Huntsman's policies were orthodox conservative. They just were sensibly justified.

This is America, Simfan. Orthodox conservatism in these great United States is code for pandering to the lowest common denominator by getting angry at the Black community, abortion doctors and scientists. Your Republican Party died long ago.
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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2015, 02:08:49 AM »

Ugh. Huntsman Part II. Jeb would be preferable.
I strongly disagree with this comparison.

Huntsman comes off elitist and condescending. Kasich connects with a wide array of voters, and often frames his actions in a religious context ("Expanding Medicaid is the Christian thing to do, even if I support the repeal of Obamacare and replacement with the PCA") without being overly-religious (think GWB and Huckabee) about it.

^^

Exactly. Kasich, wherever he departs from conservative orthodoxy, tends to frame his arguments to argue that he actually has the conservative point of view in the argument. Kasich is a far cry from Huntsman who seemingly ran to make fun of Republicans and plug his future 'No Labels' group before it existed. Kasich will not attempt to win over the GOP electorate by insulting us.

he'll insult, but as an equal rather than condescendingly.
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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2015, 06:18:47 AM »

Kasich is only similar to Huntsman as a strong general election/weak primary candidate but the reasons why are different.

Huntsman was more alien to most GOP primary voters- a Mormon and one who came out as secular at that- but he was palatable to the establishment had they not already found Romney. But his betrayal was working for Obama. Christie is in ways a better comparison to Huntsman.

Kasich is more Huckabee: an Evangelical Christian whose betrayal of movement conservatives as governor is on things like Obamacare, (as well as a congressman on guns). And some of his rhetoric may alienate some big donors as much as the Tea Party.
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