Former Senator Larry Pressler (R/I-SD) now a Mormon. (user search)
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« on: April 20, 2015, 07:07:38 PM »

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The article is by the LDS Church-owned Deseret News (so it fawns a bit over any high-profile LDS converts), but apparently other sources confirm this. Very unexpected news. Would've been interesting if he managed to win the Senate seat last year and was baptized while in office.
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2015, 12:33:27 PM »

Clayton Christensen, eh? His daughter was the president of our college group here.

But this is something I imagine that best happens out of office. And with Reid retiring. I imagine it would have raised questions.

Yeah, I imagine there'd be conspiracy theories about Reid making Pressler his Mormon successor as Minority/Majority Leader or somesuch craziness. Though Pressler's promises to serve only one term would mitigate that a bit.

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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2015, 02:36:33 PM »

I was assuming he'd died and this was one of those weird quasi-Satanic posthumous conversions.

My favorite is when the Mormons baptized Anne Frank

How do you even baptize a dead person?  Dig up their skulls and do the business with the water? 

Nope, you have someone stand in for them and do a baptism by proxy. No dead bodies involved. Not only that, it's not even a guaranteed conversion; it simply gives a deceased person the opportunity to formally accept LDS doctrine and the Church in the afterlife. Sure, it's assumed that they accepted, but they have free will.

As for the Anne Frank thing, yeah, I will admit that baptizing Holocaust victims without the consent of family members is terrible. That is part of why the LDS Church has instituted a policy of only allowing family members of the deceased to baptize/be baptized for them (or people that the family member have authorized). Even those who say they're the family of Holocaust victims have to prove it extensively.

And at this point, the repeated baptisms of Holocaust victims (I think Anne Frank is at baptism number 19 as of 2012 or so) is not the fault of the LDS Church; there are anti-Mormons who somehow trick their bishops to let them stay a member in good standing who specifically seek out Holocaust victims to baptize to make the LDS Church look bad. When I worked at the LDS Church-owned Family History Library, there was literally a photo list of "if you see these people, kick them out" because of their shenanigans. They've been banned from all English-speaking temples, and the only reason they get away with baptizing Anne Frank and other victims is because they go to non-English temples (like say, in Guatemala) that aren't as familiar with names like Anne Frank.

Yes, we do follow the practice of baptisms for the dead (that's mentioned in the New Testament by the way), but we do take precautions with it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2015, 08:04:46 PM »

The LDS genealogy work and site are just awesome. That is how I traced my ancestry back to some late Middle Ages Lady somebody, presumably hitched to a lifetime peer or knight, along with a witch, and Emily Dickenson, and other such - assuming the accuracy of the blizzard of family branches, that suddenly popped up on my computer screen.

FamilySearch's accuracy can... vary at times, but generally as long as you can find the documentation, you're probably good to go.
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