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« on: April 21, 2015, 11:29:22 PM »

http://nypost.com/2015/04/21/hillary-ripped-over-ethics-by-potential-primary-opponent/

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Chafee also said that Clinton's "hawkish" policies led to a "more dangerous world".
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2015, 11:32:09 PM »

Chafee can try all he wants, but he has scandals that just won't escape him as well.

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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2015, 11:41:03 PM »

They are politicians.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2015, 11:43:41 PM »

Bill Clinton certainly showed zero leadership and would stick his finger up to see where the wind was blowing. Because of his lack of leadership, it was always blowing to the right. It didn't help that he picked Dick Morris as his top political strategist. I mean, Dick Morris, how stupid can you be. Sarah Palin knows more about political strategy than Dick Morris.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2015, 11:57:14 PM »

If the DNC had a spine they'd immediately expel Chaffee from the party for attempting to bring legitimacy to Whitewater.

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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2015, 12:09:29 AM »

He is correct about Hillary's hawkishness, although I doubt he'd be much better.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2015, 01:15:49 AM »

If the DNC had a spine they'd immediately expel Chaffee from the party for attempting to bring legitimacy to Whitewater.

Remember, Chafee was a Republican when Whitewater was actually happening. He probably legitimately bought into it like the dope he is.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2015, 02:29:00 AM »

I really don't get why Chafee thinks he has a higher than 1% chance of winning the democratic nomination.

The focus among Anti-Hillary dems should be on drafting Biden and getting down on their knees and begging Warren to run. Those two candidates might be able to bring down Hillary together in a non-aggression pact between each other that lasts until Clinton loses a primary. Sanders can stay to keep VT and ME out of HRC's column, but O'Malley/Webb/Chafee should drop out today.
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2015, 02:43:05 AM »

I really don't get why Chafee thinks he has a higher than 1% chance of winning the democratic nomination.

The focus among Anti-Hillary dems should be on drafting Biden and getting down on their knees and begging Warren to run. Those two candidates might be able to bring down Hillary together in a non-aggression pact between each other that lasts until Clinton loses a primary. Sanders can stay to keep VT and ME out of HRC's column, but O'Malley/Webb/Chafee should drop out today.

Agreed that Chafee and Webb are going nowhere, but O'Malley has a chance.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2015, 03:36:53 AM »

The focus among Anti-Hillary dems should be on drafting Biden and getting down on their knees and begging Warren to run. Those two candidates might be able to bring down Hillary together in a non-aggression pact between each other that lasts until Clinton loses a primary. Sanders can stay to keep VT and ME out of HRC's column, but O'Malley/Webb/Chafee should drop out today.

That assumes that the goal of any of them is to stop Clinton from being nominated.  They're in it to get themselves nominated (or to get media attention, or get whatever it they want for themselves), not to stop Clinton from being nominated.  So what's the incentive for O'Malley to drop out to, just so he can endorse some other non-Clinton candidate?  O'Malley doesn't care if the nominee is Clinton as opposed to Biden or Warren.  He just cares about whether or not it's O'Malley.

This is like 2012, when people were urging Gingrich to drop out, so that his support could go to Santorum, in order to stop Romney.  Why would Gingrich care if the nominee is Santorum or Romney?  He just wanted it to be Gingrich.  If it wasn't going to be Gingrich, then he doesn't care who it is.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2015, 07:46:25 AM »

Love the way he lists two cases, one being effing Whitewater and the other where there were no grounds to charge Hillary with anything, to back up his statement that "It just never seems to stop."
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2015, 09:37:43 PM »

The focus among Anti-Hillary dems should be on drafting Biden and getting down on their knees and begging Warren to run. Those two candidates might be able to bring down Hillary together in a non-aggression pact between each other that lasts until Clinton loses a primary. Sanders can stay to keep VT and ME out of HRC's column, but O'Malley/Webb/Chafee should drop out today.

That assumes that the goal of any of them is to stop Clinton from being nominated.  They're in it to get themselves nominated (or to get media attention, or get whatever it they want for themselves), not to stop Clinton from being nominated.  So what's the incentive for O'Malley to drop out to, just so he can endorse some other non-Clinton candidate?  O'Malley doesn't care if the nominee is Clinton as opposed to Biden or Warren.  He just cares about whether or not it's O'Malley.

This is like 2012, when people were urging Gingrich to drop out, so that his support could go to Santorum, in order to stop Romney.  Why would Gingrich care if the nominee is Santorum or Romney?  He just wanted it to be Gingrich.  If it wasn't going to be Gingrich, then he doesn't care who it is.


The working theory on why Gingrich was supposed to care was that 1) Santorum is probably closer to Gingrich politically than Romney, and 2) the media "The republican party hates Romney!" narrative (which was probably a true narrative to an extent, considering he got exactly the same % of the vote in IA in 2012 as he did in 2008 despite campaigning there more in 2008 than in 2012).

And, also, considering that both Cain and Perry endorsed Gingrich upon dropping out, Pawlenty endorsed Romney in September 2011 (while Perry was ahead of/tied with Romney in the polling), and also that Santorum didn't endorse Romney until Romney met personally with Santorum to make Santorum more comfortable about supporting Romney, the whole "people don't care who the nominee is if it isn't them" theory seems kind of moot.
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2015, 09:53:23 PM »

Chafee can try all he wants, but he has scandals that just won't escape him as well.


Scandalous!
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2015, 09:54:20 PM »

Lincoln Chafee probably shouldn't get on any helicopters or walk down darkened streets unaccompanied for the time being. Who knows what the Clinton Organization is capable of doing to him.

Think of your children, Lincoln!
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2015, 10:22:04 PM »

A Moderate Republican criticized the Clintons, surprise surprise.
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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2015, 09:52:17 PM »

*bump*

Chafee says he has "high ethical standards"….unlike someone else in the race:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/lincoln-chafee-distinguishes-himself-from-hillary-i-have-high-ethical-standards/

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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2015, 10:09:51 PM »

I really don't get why Chafee thinks he has a higher than 1% chance of winning the democratic nomination.

The focus among Anti-Hillary dems should be on drafting Biden and getting down on their knees and begging Warren to run. Those two candidates might be able to bring down Hillary together in a non-aggression pact between each other that lasts until Clinton loses a primary. Sanders can stay to keep VT and ME out of HRC's column, but O'Malley/Webb/Chafee should drop out today.

Agreed that Chafee and Webb are going nowhere, but O'Malley has a chance.


Not after Baltimore he doesn't.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2015, 10:11:05 PM »

So he's running just to parrot Republican talking about "Whitewater" and "travel-gate"? Oh wait, he is a Republican, after all. Has he demanded another investigation into Benghazi yet?
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2015, 10:14:30 PM »

I'm starting to think he's a Jeb Bush plant. They were good friends in high school.
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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2015, 10:16:07 PM »

He shouldn't be allowed at the debates. There's no way that Republicans would allow a former Democrat who spent their entire campaign using Democratic talking points against their candidates into the debates.
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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2015, 10:16:50 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2015, 11:00:30 PM »

Lincoln Chafee was on Bill Maher's panel last Friday and I was not impressed. He was getting steam rolled by Alex Wagner and whoever that conservative ESPN commentator was. I doubt he'll be able to hold his own in the primary debates.
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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2015, 11:03:33 PM »
« Edited: May 11, 2015, 12:32:44 AM by RIP the NHS, RIP the BBC, RIP the UK »

DNC needs to pass a resolution forbidding this joke from receiving any delegates if he's just going to run as a crypto-Republican.
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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2015, 11:10:17 PM »

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Well he wasn't in the Senate at the time. his father was.
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2015, 08:45:06 PM »

*bump*

More Chafee on Clinton:

http://kticradio.com/abc_politics/the-dem-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-shouldnt-be-president-and-might-run-against-her-abcid35350319/

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And on foreign policy:

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And on Clinton flip-flops:

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