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« on: April 22, 2015, 10:15:12 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2015, 12:34:40 PM »
« Edited: April 22, 2015, 03:36:44 PM by maxwell »

Excellent News! Maybe Cresent Hardy can keep his job after all!

Combine that with the fact that he had the best fundraising quarter he's ever had, I'm feeling more and more confident about his ability to get re-elected.
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2015, 02:50:35 PM »

If she's the nominee, Hardy would start as the favorite. Any sane democrat should be voting for the other announced candidate in the primary, State Sen. Ruben J. Kihuen, who wouldn't be a lock in the GE by any means but is definitely better than Flores.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2015, 02:59:26 PM »
« Edited: April 22, 2015, 03:09:35 PM by badgate »

What a moron
GO KIHUEN! GO GO GO!
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2015, 04:01:24 PM »

Cresent Hardy must wish he could have a bottle of champagne right now.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2015, 04:10:27 PM »

Dems don't exactly need a top tier challenger to beat Hardy. Obama won the district by double digits and most people in the district probably don't even know who he is since turnout was so low. DOA.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2015, 04:11:39 PM »

Dems don't exactly need a top tier challenger to beat Hardy. Obama won the district by double digits and most people in the district probably don't even know who he is since turnout was so low. DOA.

Definitely not DOA, but will be leaning D by the time election day rolls around.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2015, 05:15:24 PM »

Dems don't exactly need a top tier challenger to beat Hardy. Obama won the district by double digits and most people in the district probably don't even know who he is since turnout was so low. DOA.

Definitely not DOA, but will be leaning D by the time election day rolls around.

Yes. Hardy is in trouble. But who better to hand the seat to Hardy than Flores, who ran such an abysmal campaign for Lieutenant Governor?
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2015, 05:24:19 PM »
« Edited: April 22, 2015, 05:34:13 PM by Wulfric »

Dems don't exactly need a top tier challenger to beat Hardy. Obama won the district by double digits and most people in the district probably don't even know who he is since turnout was so low. DOA.
It's worth noting that in 2012, the NV-4 House margin was 2.5% lower than the NV-4 presidential margin. Give a few extra points to Hardy for incumbency and Flores natural weakness, and you can easily see him holding on as long the presidential ticket keeps Hilary's NV-4 margin to 6, 7 points.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2015, 06:12:53 PM »

Why is Flores "naturally weak"? It wasn't her fault Nevada had an R wave.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2015, 06:28:11 PM »

Why is Flores "naturally weak"? It wasn't her fault Nevada had an R wave.
She barely cracked 40% last year, some of the other row office candidates got around 45%.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2015, 06:32:02 PM »

Why is Flores "naturally weak"? It wasn't her fault Nevada had an R wave.

That's not why. Steven Horsford and Ross Miller were victims of the R wave, as were most of the row officers that ran that year (though some did better than others). Flores, however, ran a terrible campaign
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2015, 06:37:23 PM »

Why is Flores "naturally weak"? It wasn't her fault Nevada had an R wave.

That's not why. Steven Horsford and Ross Miller were victims of the R wave, as were most of the row officers that ran that year (though some did better than others). Flores, however, ran a terrible campaign

That doesn't sound like she ran a terrible campaign, more like she used a strategy that the columnist disagreed with politically.
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2015, 06:41:36 PM »

Why is Flores "naturally weak"? It wasn't her fault Nevada had an R wave.

That's not why. Steven Horsford and Ross Miller were victims of the R wave, as were most of the row officers that ran that year (though some did better than others). Flores, however, ran a terrible campaign

That doesn't sound like she ran a terrible campaign, more like she used a strategy that the columnist disagreed with politically.

Former gang member? Had an abortion? This stuff might be a "compelling story" from a progressive standpoint, but the average swing voter is not going to see that stuff automatically as a plus. Heck, it will turn off a large number of them if she doesn't explain it right. In this case, I see what the columnist is getting at.
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2015, 06:58:58 PM »

Why is Flores "naturally weak"? It wasn't her fault Nevada had an R wave.

That's not why. Steven Horsford and Ross Miller were victims of the R wave, as were most of the row officers that ran that year (though some did better than others). Flores, however, ran a terrible campaign

That doesn't sound like she ran a terrible campaign, more like she used a strategy that the columnist disagreed with politically.

Former gang member? Had an abortion? This stuff might be a "compelling story" from a progressive standpoint, but the average swing voter is not going to see that stuff automatically as a plus. Heck, it will turn off a large number of them if she doesn't explain it right. In this case, I see what the columnist is getting at.

But the point is exactly that this isn't a swing district.
Besides that, she left that life behind and became a successful member of the community. How can that be used against her?
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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2015, 07:12:25 PM »

A PVI D+4 with a Republican incumbent? Sounds like the definition of a swing district to me. I'm not saying her background should be disqualifying, just that it could just as easily be a negative as a positive, and I think that's what the columnist was getting at.
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2015, 07:19:42 PM »

Not all Dems think having an abortion is "good." They just support what they see as a right to choose.  And as for her gang life, how do we know she didn't hurt anyone and just didn't get caught? If that article is accurate, then she dodged questions on that.

I doubt that she campaigned saying how proud she was that she had an abortion.
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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2015, 07:02:00 PM »

If there is anyone close to being the Democratic version of Todd Akin, it is this woman.

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« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2015, 11:24:36 PM »

Dems don't exactly need a top tier challenger to beat Hardy. Obama won the district by double digits and most people in the district probably don't even know who he is since turnout was so low. DOA.
It's worth noting that in 2012, the NV-4 House margin was 2.5% lower than the NV-4 presidential margin. Give a few extra points to Hardy for incumbency and Flores natural weakness, and you can easily see him holding on as long the presidential ticket keeps Hilary's NV-4 margin to 6, 7 points.

Wouldn't that be due to it being an open seat contest and an incumbent president though?
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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2015, 11:30:15 PM »

Who could vote against this man?

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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2015, 02:52:45 AM »

Why didn't Horsford run again?
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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2015, 03:03:31 AM »

If there is anyone close to being the Democratic version of Todd Akin, it is this woman.

That's why i greatly prefer another Democratic candidate in this district....
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