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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« on: April 30, 2015, 11:50:01 PM »

Wulfric clearly needs to move to a different part of Minnesota and become a hipster Christian instead.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2015, 11:04:53 PM »

Doesn't Wulfric belong to a church that now does gay weddings? Unless he's not PCUSA.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2015, 11:41:58 AM »

Wulfric, do you support repeal of the 1st Amendment?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2015, 04:26:59 PM »

Yes Wulfric is going way beyond opposing SSM now.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,031
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2015, 06:41:47 PM »

OK now that I have a bit more time:

Wulfric your position becomes even more untenable when you consider the state now has to define "Christian", which opens up some issues with what to restrict. Even ignoring denominations that perform same sex weddings, what about Mormons? Should their temples be banned? What about Seventh-day Adventists? They may fit the definition of Christian by most people and other denominations, but their views toward anyone who doesn't worship on Saturday would exclude many other denominations. What about Oneness Pentecostals who don't believe in the Trinity? Their baptisms aren't considered valid by most Christian denominations, so should they be restricted? You basically will need some agency to determine what is or isn't Christian and effectively have the state regulating Christianity.

And actually, your position SSM and civil unions isn't even consistent with this. If homosexuality is a sin, and goes against the will of God, and this can't ever be supported even on a secular scale, then why are civil unions OK? That too is promoting sin by your standard. In fact if you want to restrict/ban other religions, the only consistent position would be to criminalize homosexuality as well. Supporting not just the legality of homosexuality but also civil unions on top of this makes NO sense compared to the rest of this.
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