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Likely Voter
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« on: April 23, 2015, 02:08:24 AM »
« edited: April 23, 2015, 02:19:18 AM by Likely Voter »

the Hillary campaign has been talking up how they are not taking the primary for granted. Obama beat her in 08 by out organizing, especially in small states and caucuses. So this time they will go all out for every delegate.  Obviously by summer 2016 they will be focusing on general and a handful of battlegrounds. Probably same set as Obama 2012 plus one or two to show they are expanding the map
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2015, 02:31:24 AM »

the Hillary campaign has been talking up how they are not taking the primary for granted. Obama beat her in 08 by out organizing, especially in small states and caucuses. So this time they will go all out for every delegate.  Obviously by summer 2016 they will be focusing on general and a handful of battlegrounds. Probably same set as Oboma 2012 plus one or two to show they are expandithe map

This is the map: http://www.270towin.com/2016_election_predictions.php?mapid=bKRb The expand the map thing is DWS DNC bs. Dear Robby, you are not working with McAuliffe anymore nor running against the Cooch in an off-year. Realism, realism, realism, realism.

Including IN on your map is expanding the map. Obama didn't target IN in 2012, even though he won it in 2008. 

The 2012 states were FL, OH, VA, CO, IA, NV, NH, WI, NC, and PA.  Hillary will spend effort in the same list, but for NV, PA, WI and NH they will spend only as much as needed to counter GOP spend And if GOP ignores any of them so will Hillary.  But I bet team Hillary will dabble in one or two Romney states (in addition to NC) to at least test it out and maybe troll enough to get GOP to spend even more defending them.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2015, 03:06:03 PM »

Guys, read the article. This is not about the general.

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Team Clinton is just insuring that they avoid the same problems of 2008.

And presidential campaigns don't really care about down ballot. That is what the DSCC and DCCC are for.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2015, 04:31:13 PM »

She can't say it's about the general. That would feed the critics. It's about the general.

so you think that team clinton is going to spend significant time, money and resources in all 50 states in the general? To what end? Any $ spent in Idaho or Hawaii is a $ not spent in FL/OH/VA and the other core battlegrounds.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2015, 04:50:21 PM »

Even with a ton more money, that just means more for the 10 or so battlegrounds. In 2012 50% of the ad money was spent on just 3 states (FL, OH, VA). If there was a ton of extra money they can just spread it to the 7 other battlegrounds so they end up getting as much spend/EV (plus maybe expand the map a bit). There is a lot of room to go maxing out states like NC and PA before they start buying ads in Texas and California. Just look for yourself.

Again this 50 state thing is all part of the Clinton 2012 obsession with fixing all their 2008 mistakes. Just look at the campaign so far, it is all about being different than last time. This is why they are doing it...(from USA Today article "Obama's political team out-organized Clinton" from 2008)
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