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« on: April 23, 2015, 06:58:46 AM »

Wulfric, money is not a finite resource in politics anymore. Obama did a 50 state in 2008 and that was even before Citizens United opened the floodgates.  Stop. She's not wasting anything.

Also, by not really having to dog fight a primary,  establishing this is exactly the kind of move she should be making.  She has a year long head start on the Republican nominee to start GE campaigning, or at least laying the foundation.
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2015, 12:21:20 PM »
« Edited: April 23, 2015, 12:23:24 PM by Monarch »

The problem with the strategy is that it won't change the results in a favorable election (if Missouri is potentially competitive, Hillary Clinton probably wins) but that it might be a waste of resources in a tough election. If it's 2016 and the election is close, the resources used in Georgia could have just as well been used in Virginia or Colorado.

There is an element of diminishing returns, and it's possible that the Clinton campaign will have so much money it doesn't matter how they spend it.

It might not flip a state but it could flip a Congressional district. If the Democrats want to have an effective Presidency, they have to do better in Congress. We don't know where these fifty state offices will be located, but I doubt Louie Gohmert's district will be where the Texas office is. Getting Democrat voters whose votes don't really matter for the EC "Ready for Hillary" could flip seats.

Besides, resources aren't really finite anymore. Both the Democrats and Republicans have enough money to fill every TV commercial spot in all fifty states. They could run SuperBowl Ads if they wanted. I'd like to think the GOP nominee will respond with their own fifty state strategy.

As you said, Clinton campaign will have so much money it doesn't matter. And again, the GOP nominee likely won't be settled until April 2016. She's already in the bag in April 2015. She needs to use this year time advantage to build a general election organization.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2015, 12:35:48 PM »

There are no Congressional Districts in Missouri capable of being flipped. They've been gerrymandered to hell.

The whole nation is gerrymandered to hell. A Democratic House would be not be easy obviously. Roy Blunt's Senate seat and R+7 districts like MO-2 and MO-6 (which McCaskill did win over Akin, as little as that means) would have be the type of places you'd make a run at, even as improbable (even impossible) as those would be to win.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2015, 03:15:26 PM »

She can't say it's about the general. That would feed the critics. It's about the general.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2015, 04:34:03 PM »

She can't say it's about the general. That would feed the critics. It's about the general.

so you think that team clinton is going to spend significant time, money and resources in all 50 states in the general? To what end? Any $ spent in Idaho or Hawaii is a $ not spent in FL/OH/VA and the other core battlegrounds.

There's going to be so much money spent in this election that there will be no such thing as a dollar that could have been spent in FL/OH/VA. Every TV ad in October is going to be a political ad. No more space left to buy.
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