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« on: April 23, 2015, 03:31:22 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2015, 12:44:10 PM »

Our State Department is a joke anyways

Congress is a bigger joke, might as well just not show up to anything if that's the statement to be made.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2015, 12:54:14 PM »

Don't Republicans realize that if they are attempting to beef up on foreign policy credentials, not going Armed Services, Foreign Relations, and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs committee meetings will only hurt them in the general election?
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2015, 12:55:21 PM »

Don't Republicans realize that if they are attempting to beef up on foreign policy credentials, not going Armed Services, Foreign Relations, and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs committee meetings will only hurt them in the general election?

Apparently not. Same thing about voting to cut the Dept. of State's security budget in 2011.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2015, 01:01:28 PM »

Our State Department is a joke anyways
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2015, 01:45:23 PM »

Why should Paul be present? We all know he is going to vote against more funds anyway. Try harder.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2015, 02:18:13 PM »

Why should Paul be present? We all know he is going to vote against more funds anyway. Try harder.

Unfortunately, he's right.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2015, 02:32:40 PM »

Why should Paul be present? We all know he is going to vote against more funds anyway. Try harder.

Unfortunately, he's (he being Sanchez, not Rand) right.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2015, 02:33:09 PM »

Why should Paul be present? We all know he is going to vote against more funds anyway. Try harder.

You're missing the irony.  He wanted the State Department to have more security, but he wants to lower the State Department's budget which is what provides said security.  

And, again, Rand Paul is a clown because he buys into the Benghazi conspiracy theory.  Obama was an anti-war Senator once too, but he didn't accuse Bush of being involved in 9/11.  
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2015, 10:48:27 AM »

Why should Paul be present? We all know he is going to vote against more funds anyway. Try harder.

You're missing the irony.  He wanted the State Department to have more security, but he wants to lower the State Department's budget which is what provides said security.  

And, again, Rand Paul is a clown because he buys into the Benghazi conspiracy theory.  Obama was an anti-war Senator once too, but he didn't accuse Bush of being involved in 9/11.  
Terrible analogy and you know it.

You're right. It's an insult to 9/11 Truthers.

At least with the 9/11 conspiracy I can coherently state what the theory is: the government staged the hijackings of the planes and controlled demolished the buildings to create a national security emergency for the purpose of allowing them to escalate the government's power of policing and funding for the military industrial complex. It's insane, but I understand what it is.

Almost three years in and I still have no idea what the gripes with Benghazi are; it just seems to be a bunch of chirping of "what happened? we don't know!"
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2015, 11:51:57 AM »

Why should Paul be present? We all know he is going to vote against more funds anyway. Try harder.

You're missing the irony.  He wanted the State Department to have more security, but he wants to lower the State Department's budget which is what provides said security.  

And, again, Rand Paul is a clown because he buys into the Benghazi conspiracy theory.  Obama was an anti-war Senator once too, but he didn't accuse Bush of being involved in 9/11.  
Terrible analogy and you know it.

No.  Why is it a terrible analogy?
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2015, 12:35:52 PM »

But what is the Benghazi scandal? That's what makes it worse.

I know what the 9/11 Truth scandal is.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2015, 01:04:56 PM »

9/11 was a much bigger deal than Benghazi and the "Bush did 9/11" conspiracy theory is much more far-reaching than most of the Benghazi theories. The media certainly didn't promote "Bush did 9/11" on the level they've promoted Benghazi, and the amount of support for the 9/11 stuff among US elected officials was/is close to nil.

All of this means Benghazi doesn't even approach "Bush did 9/11" levels of fringe. That's the reality. I know you see the Benghazi stuff as about as realistic as Bush doing 9/11, but trying to frame it like they're equivalent positions to take is disingenuous.

"Some people believe this so it has to be at least partially true!"  No. 

So far, we know that in hindsight that we should have either had much more security at the consulate in Benghazi or not had any presence there at all.  The same could be said about any attack on US facilities overseas which have happened many, many times, notably under Bush II, Clinton and Reagan.  But, nobody ever turned those tragic incidents, many worse than Benghazi in terms of lives lost, into a conspiracy theory or had House committees starting brand new investigations on them two and a half years later. 

The undercurrent to the Benghazi stuff is that Obama is somehow in league with Islamic terrorists or that there was some greater secret at work in the whole Benghazi story that is being covered up.  If that wasn't the case, why would anyone care about investigating this?  We already know what happened.  And, Rand Paul even brought up a Glenn Beck created conspiracy involving Syria and Turkey and Benghazi while questioning Secretary Clinton.

Now, is it exactly like the 9.11 conspiracy theories on youtube?  No.  It's tamer I suppose.  But, if Democrats kept bringing up 9/11 and accusing Bush of covering up some greater secret or creating partisan witch-hunts, it would be the same.  It's a matter of integrity and being a productive member of the government, not a crazy person who foams at the mouth and screams about cover-ups.  Democrats never pandered to the idiots in their party who would buy into witch hunts over 9/11.  Republicans have with Benghazi and it reflects very poorly on them.

And, this should be especially worrying with Rand Paul.  Because he's kind of a conspiracy nut, like his father.  Conspiracy nuts are not the sort of people we should elect President. 
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2015, 01:36:21 PM »

Our State Department is a joke anyways

So I guess Rand will abolish it once he is sworn in.
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