Cooperatives Administration Act of 2015 (Failed)

[windjammer]

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Sponsor: TNF

[TNF]

The point of this bill is to grow our cooperative sector. Similar legislation has successfully been implemented at the regional level in the past (specifically, in the Midwest), so I have no doubt that it will work even better at the federal level.

[Blair]

I like this bill, it's a good idea.

Just wondering why co-ops are exempt from anti-trust laws? I'm just curious

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Strike Section 2 and I could support it. The government should not artificially bloat one sector just because of what it is or stands for. If cooperatives are to be successful, they will need to be able to survive on their own.

Plus, one third of contracts cannot immediately go to cooperatives after the passage of this bill for the simple reason that there will not be enough cooperatives to take on this work.

I think we can support cooperatives in their infancy (so long as we make it clear what a cooperative is), but I can't see how setting any kind of quota is a good idea here. They've got to compete for contracts just like everyone else.

[Cranberry]

I am more inclined to support Senator Hagrid's side on the issue here. While certainly cooperatives are worth supporting, he does have a point in that they will, on the short or long term, have to prove themselves by themselves.

Section 2.1 is for me, same as for Senator Hagrid, quite unworkable, simply because there won't be enough cooperatives to begin with.
Section 2.2 will be a rather large cost, I could see myself support paying a share (30%?) of the cost, if you want that.
I don't see where people would derive any capital gain from those bonds as outlined in Section 2.3, and I doubt that many people will suddenly buy such bonds without any revenue in sight.

[Senator Cris]

I think that it's right supporting cooperatives, but at the same time I think that cooperatives needs to survive and to prove their efficiency by themselves.
I'm ready to support it, but there should be important changes. I don't like the entire Section 2 and I'm supporting Senator Hagrid in asking a full strike of this part of the bill. It clearly goes against the principe of proving their efficiency by themselves and it's important for me.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Seeing the above responses, I feel good going ahead and putting this amendment forward.

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[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I'll support Senator Hagrid's amendment

[Cranberry]

I do as well.

[TNF]

I object.

The point of section 2 is to make sure we have a strong cooperative sector by setting aside federal contracts for cooperatives.

[Simfan34]

Why should we give preference to cooperatives at all?

[HagridOfTheDeep]

I object.

The point of section 2 is to make sure we have a strong cooperative sector by setting aside federal contracts for cooperatives.

Why should we give them contracts if it is counter to our fiscal interests?

[windjammer]

Seeing the above responses, I feel good going ahead and putting this amendment forward.

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A vote is now open on Hagrid's amendment. Please, vote AYE, NAY or Abstain.

[Blair]

Why should we give preference to cooperatives at all?

Because they're good

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Why should we give preference to cooperatives at all?

Because they're good

Um, there has to be a reason why the Atlasian Federal Government is going to pick winners. I support cooperatives being able to operate, but I think they should have to compete as any small business.

[Blair]

Why should we give preference to cooperatives at all?

Because they're good

Um, there has to be a reason why the Atlasian Federal Government is going to pick winners. I support cooperatives being able to operate, but I think they should have to compete as any small business.

I think Co-ops like any starting trend, e.g wind farms in the 2000's, tech companies in the 80's need government help to get started. I don't support having 1/3rd of them under federal contracts but I like giving them some governmental support

[Senator Cris]

Aye.

It's a very good improvement and it has my full support.

[TNF]

Because the cooperative model is less exploitative than the run of the mill capitalist enterprise.

Nay

[windjammer]

Aye

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

AYE

[Talleyrand]

AYE

[Cranberry]

AYE

[Blair]

nay

[DemPGH]

Abstain.

I also like cooperatives, but I think the aims of section 2 were a little too ambitious. I'd have to research the law on this, but maybe making it easier for them to operate or get assistance would be something to think about. If we've already done that, then maybe that's sufficient.

[Lief 🗽]

NAY