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« on: April 24, 2015, 06:56:52 PM »

Primary switch has yet to be approved by the Leg.
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2015, 07:01:55 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2015, 07:03:56 PM by Pakistani Christian UKIP Supporter 🇵🇰 »

RIP Paultards hijacking the state party and almost appointing a bunch of ninja delegates to the RNC. Cry
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2015, 07:04:58 PM »

Don't really care.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2015, 07:07:36 PM »

The Establishment Strikes Back.  I wonder if Indies will be allowed to vote in it.

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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2015, 07:22:59 PM »

At least one version of this bill would schedule the primary for the last Tuesday of February, which would be *after* South Carolina, whereas if they stuck with a caucus, it would probably be before South Carolina.

Also, even if the Republicans want to participate in the primary, there's nothing to stop the Nevada Dems from holding a caucus (potentially on a different date).  Though if Clinton is winning every state by 50 points, then I guess the Dem. contest doesn't really matter much.

In other news, North Carolina is moving closer to scrapping its early primary, and putting it in compliance with DNC and RNC rules:

http://frontloading.blogspot.com.au/2015/04/north-carolina-presidential-primary.html

RIP Paultards hijacking the state party and almost appointing a bunch of ninja delegates to the RNC. Cry

To be clear, the new RNC rules say that even caucus results have to be binding on who delegates get pledged to.  So this wouldn't have worked anyway, unless there's no one nominated on the first ballot.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2015, 07:29:48 PM »

If the Feb. 23rd version of this bill passes, and both parties in Nevada opt to go with the primary over caucuses, *and* if the remaining out-of-compliance states shift their primaries to March 1 or later, then the national parties would actually pull off what I previously thought was unrealistic: Getting the primary season to start in February.  The calendar in this scenario would be:

Mon, Feb. 1: Iowa caucuses
Tue, Feb. 9: New Hampshire primary
Sat, Feb. 20: South Carolina primary
Tue, Feb. 23: Nevada primary
Tue, Mar. 1: Super Tuesday
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2015, 07:45:22 PM »

Yay! Death to caucuses!
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2015, 07:57:34 PM »

Judging by the clusterf[inks] I personally witnessed in 2012, and that it took the party a day and a half to release the results, I can say I'm surprised.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2015, 08:04:16 PM »

It's absurd that caucuses are even still a thing.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2015, 08:21:27 PM »

BTW, CO is also looking to switch from caucus to primary

http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2015/04/22/colorado-considering-switch-to-presidential-primary-in-2016/119300/
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2015, 10:38:03 PM »

RIP Joe Republican
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2015, 11:32:12 AM »

Ralston: Very complicated, with an uncertain outcome. No further action for another month, and GOP campaigns are seriously considering skipping NV if it remains a caucus because they see it as a Paul setup. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2015, 02:00:44 PM »

Update: bill has February primary for all races, carveout for Dem caucuses. Bill has Priebus' and Sandoval's support.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2015, 02:50:15 PM »

This is a good move - caucuses disenfranchise too many folks, particularly the disadvantaged.  Fair elections are always best
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2015, 02:58:50 PM »

This is a good move - caucuses disenfranchise too many folks, particularly the disadvantaged.  Fair elections are always best
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2015, 04:08:49 PM »

Did... CountryClassSF say somethign relatively sane and reasonable?
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2015, 04:18:23 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2015, 04:45:37 PM »

Paul could still win the primary with all the establishment candidates in the race, so I don't see this as a problem.
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2015, 05:59:34 PM »


That is silly.  Ron Paul didn't even come in second in the Nevada caucus in 2012.  What makes them think Rand is going to do that much better?
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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2015, 10:31:16 PM »

Paul people took over the convention, so he ended up with the most delegates from Nevada. 17 of the 28 Nevada GOP delegates voted for Paul at the national convention (5 abstained, 1 wasn't counted, and 5 voted for Romney).
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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2015, 10:34:16 PM »

The Paul people were posting all over the internet claiming that they were taking over delegates. Even in primary states, they claimed they got their delegates elected in spite of the results. In Nevada I guess it actually worked.
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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2015, 12:08:14 AM »

Paul people took over the convention, so he ended up with the most delegates from Nevada. 17 of the 28 Nevada GOP delegates voted for Paul at the national convention (5 abstained, 1 wasn't counted, and 5 voted for Romney).

That is impossible to do in 2016 with the new RNC rules though.  The delegate allocation is deteremined by how you do on caucus day now.  Do the rival campaigns not realize this?
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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2015, 12:12:57 AM »

I don't think most campaigns pay attention to the minutia of delegate allocation rules. Remember the Clinton campaign in 2008 not realizing that Democratic primaries were not winner-take-all.
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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2015, 12:32:10 AM »

In any case, the DNC rules as currently written give Nevada an early state status on the condition that it be a caucus.  If they don't change that, then I presume the Nevada Dems will keep their caucus, and won't participate in a state-run primary.  So you could have a Republican primary and a Democratic caucus, presumably held on different days.
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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2015, 03:48:02 PM »

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