police murder megathread

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

michael brown, eric garner, and tamir rice were not isolated incidents. let's have a megathread about cases of murder by police officers in general


yesterday a video was released showing the fate of ervin edwards, a black, mentally ill 38-year-old. he was arrested on november 26, 2013 for sagging his pants and died the same day in police custody. over the following 18 months, police consistently lied about the circumstances of his death; the video shows officer dustin macmullan willfully murdering edwards with a taser and leaving him, dead, in his jail cell.


ervin edwards

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

I encourage all civil disobedience and non-violent revolution against the pig population. 

stop calling them pigs, pigs are nice

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

I only mention this one because the cop involved (now ex-cop, thankfully) will no doubt be a future murderer. The victim was Victor Hernandez, who managed to survive after being shot eight times, including in the face.

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this (along with eric garner) is why i don't believe that body cameras will actually do any good.

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While heinous, these crimes pale in comparison to your unprovoked murder of grammatical norms.

kk

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Yes, why exactly should any of us be made to apologize or even feel remorse over these outbreaks of destruction? The simple fact is that large portions of America - particularly white America - simply don't understand the level of systemic poverty, discrimination and lack of opportunity that exists (and has existed for decades or more) in areas where this behavior typically arises. All too many people want to refer to these people as animals, when in reality, it is a response from them being treated like animals.

They're not looting because they want free stuff. They're not burning down buildings in "their community", because nothing in their so-called community belongs to them in the first place. When dealing with areas where a majority of fathers and young sons are being hauled off for responding to their institutionalized poverty in mostly non-violent but unconventional ways, where generation upon generation has found itself denied equal opportunity, where education truly lacks in structure - let alone at home - and where justice seemingly doesn't exist, these people lash out because it is all that releases the stress and all that sends a message. Nothing around them is truly indicative of a community. Nobody at any other time ever listens.

The only way things change, whether pacifists and non-violent propagandists like it or not, is through systematic agitation of the power structures that wish it would stay the same. Sometimes, that means action like what we're seeing. Drawing the venom out is necessary, because it's seeping all over the place under the surface anyway.

Of course, latte-loving white suburbia is going to frown and flex its big, lazy mouth through internet commentary that calls them "animals" and says "shoot them all on sight!", because they haven't the faintest clue nor care about what is truly going on in these places except when it is to indulge their worst stereotypes with 24/7 media coverage. How inconvenient it must be for and how much skin in the game must there be from all of these tough-on-crime suburbanites and rubes who watch from afar and prognosticate about entire groups of people and their motivations! If there was a God, then these sorts of people would be blessed with the same sort of unrest and injustice within their own little posh ecosystems. 

^^ the rioters are, essentially, acting in self-defence, pushing back against a system that has continuously been attacking them since birth.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

Yes, why exactly should any of us be made to apologize or even feel remorse over these outbreaks of destruction? The simple fact is that large portions of America - particularly white America - simply don't understand the level of systemic poverty, discrimination and lack of opportunity that exists (and has existed for decades or more) in areas where this behavior typically arises. All too many people want to refer to these people as animals, when in reality, it is a response from them being treated like animals.

They're not looting because they want free stuff. They're not burning down buildings in "their community", because nothing in their so-called community belongs to them in the first place. When dealing with areas where a majority of fathers and young sons are being hauled off for responding to their institutionalized poverty in mostly non-violent but unconventional ways, where generation upon generation has found itself denied equal opportunity, where education truly lacks in structure - let alone at home - and where justice seemingly doesn't exist, these people lash out because it is all that releases the stress and all that sends a message. Nothing around them is truly indicative of a community. Nobody at any other time ever listens.

The only way things change, whether pacifists and non-violent propagandists like it or not, is through systematic agitation of the power structures that wish it would stay the same. Sometimes, that means action like what we're seeing. Drawing the venom out is necessary, because it's seeping all over the place under the surface anyway.

Of course, latte-loving white suburbia is going to frown and flex its big, lazy mouth through internet commentary that calls them "animals" and says "shoot them all on sight!", because they haven't the faintest clue nor care about what is truly going on in these places except when it is to indulge their worst stereotypes with 24/7 media coverage. How inconvenient it must be for and how much skin in the game must there be from all of these tough-on-crime suburbanites and rubes who watch from afar and prognosticate about entire groups of people and their motivations! If there was a God, then these sorts of people would be blessed with the same sort of unrest and injustice within their own little posh ecosystems. 

^^ the rioters are, essentially, acting in self-defence, pushing back against a system that has continuously been attacking them since birth.

I really don't understand how you're not a socialist.

i am…?

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

terrence kellum, an unarmed 20-year-old black man, has been murdered by an i.c.e. agent in detroit.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

terrence kellum, an unarmed 20-year-old black man, has been murdered by an i.c.e. agent in detroit.

How do you know whether he was murdered?  That's really unfair to the officer who may have justifiably used deadly force based on the article. 

1. because he was unarmed

2. because nobody with half a brain, at this point, should believe the mealy-mouthed formulation that the officer was "faced with a threat". we heard it after walter scott. we heard it after tamir rice.  police have no credibility on this kind of statement anymore.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

terrence kellum, an unarmed 20-year-old black man, has been murdered by an i.c.e. agent in detroit.

How do you know whether he was murdered?  That's really unfair to the officer who may have justifiably used deadly force based on the article. 

1. because he was unarmed

2. because nobody with half a brain, at this point, should believe the mealy-mouthed formulation that the officer was "faced with a threat". we heard it after walter scott. we heard it after tamir rice.  police have no credibility on this kind of statement anymore.

That's ridiculous.  You can't just jump to conclusions like that.

if this had happened in a vacuum you would be right, but it didn't.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

madison police officer matt kenny will face no charges for murdering an unarmed teenager in march

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