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The Other Castro
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« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2015, 01:52:07 PM »

We have now reached the point where 20 (non-completely unknown joke) candidates are projected to run for the Republican nomination. This shall be glorious.
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2015, 01:54:28 PM »

We have now reached the point where 20 (non-completely unknown joke) candidates are projected to run for the Republican nomination. This shall be glorious.
To be fair only half will ever be allowed on a debate stage
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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2015, 01:58:04 PM »

RINO who vetoed voter ID and supports genderless marriage , nothing to see here

Isn't he the reason that Michigan is the only blue state without SSM?  I'm pretty sure he's opposed.
He defends the ban because he's faithful to his oath of office. He won't say if he supports it personally.

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He could have encouraged the Michigan Snake Legislature to put SSM rights on the ballot in 2014 to determine whether Michigan voters would have gone for it. Instead he lets the federal courts (now the US Supreme Court) decide.
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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2015, 02:03:06 PM »

He ran decent campaigns but had the advantage in 2014 of running against the blandest Dem the party could put up (without a primary...)
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« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2015, 02:06:06 PM »

We have now reached the point where 20 (non-completely unknown joke) candidates are projected to run for the Republican nomination. This shall be glorious.
To be fair only half will ever be allowed on a debate stage

They'd probably ignore Pataki, Gilmore, Bolton, and Ehrlich, but it'd be hard to not see invitations for others. Maybe they could decline Santorum and Trump, but the rest would probably be invited.
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« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2015, 02:13:06 PM »

We have now reached the point where 20 (non-completely unknown joke) candidates are projected to run for the Republican nomination. This shall be glorious.
To be fair only half will ever be allowed on a debate stage

They'd probably ignore Pataki, Gilmore, Bolton, and Ehrlich, but it'd be hard to not see invitations for others. Maybe they could decline Santorum and Trump, but the rest would probably be invited.
Graham and Fiorina aren't getting on either
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« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2015, 02:13:24 PM »

I don't see how they can't invite sitting governors/senators.
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« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2015, 02:14:26 PM »

That also assumes every single candidate that is being discussed will enter the race which is certainly not true
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« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2015, 02:15:26 PM »

We have now reached the point where 20 (non-completely unknown joke) candidates are projected to run for the Republican nomination. This shall be glorious.
To be fair only half will ever be allowed on a debate stage

They'd probably ignore Pataki, Gilmore, Bolton, and Ehrlich, but it'd be hard to not see invitations for others. Maybe they could decline Santorum and Trump, but the rest would probably be invited.
Graham and Fiorina aren't getting on either
Why not?
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« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2015, 02:16:35 PM »

We have now reached the point where 20 (non-completely unknown joke) candidates are projected to run for the Republican nomination. This shall be glorious.
To be fair only half will ever be allowed on a debate stage

They'd probably ignore Pataki, Gilmore, Bolton, and Ehrlich, but it'd be hard to not see invitations for others. Maybe they could decline Santorum and Trump, but the rest would probably be invited.
Graham and Fiorina aren't getting on either
Why not?
you usually need at least 3% in the polls to get into the debates
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« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2015, 02:17:26 PM »

But... with a minimum of 3% in the polls, are we still looking at 10+ candidates in the debates?
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« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2015, 02:19:10 PM »

But... with a minimum of 3% in the polls, are we still looking at 10+ candidates in the debates?
actually more like 8-10 which is smaller than the democratic debates in 2008
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« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2015, 02:22:15 PM »

There's going to be a lot of candidates who get in, try to raise money, and then drop out when they fail. They'll never see a debate floor, because they'll be out long before then.
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« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2015, 02:22:20 PM »

That also assumes every single candidate that is being discussed will enter the race which is certainly not true

Who do you not see running? I think everyone is in.
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« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2015, 02:23:11 PM »

But... with a minimum of 3% in the polls, are we still looking at 10+ candidates in the debates?
actually more like 8-10 which is smaller than the democratic debates in 2008
There were 8 candidates at the beginning of the cycle, but by the time we got to 2008, there were only 4 candidates (Clinton, Obama, Edwards, and Richardson) still in the race. I doubt that is going to be the case here, especially when someone could win Iowa with like 12% of the vote.
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« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2015, 02:26:30 PM »

That also assumes every single candidate that is being discussed will enter the race which is certainly not true

Who do you not see running? I think everyone is in.
Has that ever happened? remember in 2012 when Daniels, Barbour, Jindal, Demint, Huckabee, and Christie were supposed to get in but didn't. Every cycle has candidates that explore running but eventually bail
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« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2015, 03:14:46 PM »

But... with a minimum of 3% in the polls, are we still looking at 10+ candidates in the debates?

Where you are getting the 3% number from? In 2012 it was 1% for the earliest debates, and 2% later in the season.
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« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2015, 03:19:23 PM »

He's a reelected big state Governor.

He's not a clown car candidate in the sense of the lesser lights of the 2012 field.

Given the branding of the Republicans as the party of old white guys, the "one tough nerd" message can play really well in the primary.
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« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2015, 03:23:32 PM »

Yeah, I was remembering 2% as that's how Gary Johnson was able to get into that one debate.

With a 2% threshold you'd be looking at 12-15 candidates at least
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« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2015, 03:24:41 PM »

Jeez. How many people are going to win just one primary? He's clearly only running to be put on The VP shortlist
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« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2015, 03:43:47 PM »

We have now reached the point where 20 (non-completely unknown joke) candidates are projected to run for the Republican nomination. This shall be glorious.
To be fair only half will ever be allowed on a debate stage

They'd probably ignore Pataki, Gilmore, Bolton, and Ehrlich, but it'd be hard to not see invitations for others. Maybe they could decline Santorum and Trump, but the rest would probably be invited.
Graham and Fiorina aren't getting on either

Isn't Fiorina's only purpose to have a woman on the debate stage? The media also loves her, which helped Huntsman get into debates even when he didn't officially qualify. She'll be there. Of all the potential candidates, the only ones I can see geting excluded as "not serious" are Ehrlich and Gilmore.
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« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2015, 03:49:36 PM »

I actually think Snyder entering hurts a potential Kasich run moreso than it hurts Walker. Kind of like how Pence was Walker-lite, Snyder is Kasich-lite.
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« Reply #47 on: April 25, 2015, 03:55:50 PM »

ALL ABOARD THE CLOWN TRAIN
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« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2015, 04:16:54 PM »

Snyder is not a clown
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« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2015, 04:17:42 PM »

I actually think Snyder entering hurts a potential Kasich run moreso than it hurts Walker. Kind of like how Pence was Walker-lite, Snyder is Kasich-lite.

Snyder is the reality of Kasich.
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