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« on: April 26, 2015, 03:40:58 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2015, 03:45:16 PM »

yes, we made all this joke when we were idiots in middle school who thought we were soo edgy, the kid knew what he was doing, he shouldn't act like some persecuted victim nor should he be surprised that he's in trouble for literally putting a swastika on a Jewish fraternity's wall
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2015, 03:55:42 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2015, 07:32:31 PM »

While it is a shame that such an ancient symbol has been so heavily tainted by it's association with Nazism, and I hope that someday it may be rehabilitated, the kid was a total idiot and got what he deserved. Context matters.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2015, 07:41:01 PM »

At first I honestly thought the kid posted this and got suspended



Given the circumstances, however, the penalty is fair.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2015, 07:53:02 PM »


I've had a couple of these! Never noticed the similarity to the swastika before now, though.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2015, 08:19:40 PM »

Arizona used to use these state highway signs:

 

It's clear that that swastika, in view of its location on an arrowhead, had nothing to do with 'Aryan' supremacy.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2015, 08:25:04 PM »

Suspension is fine, but going for a "hate crime" is too much.

We shouldn't bend over to the professionally sensitive and recreationaly outraged.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2015, 09:42:33 PM »

The location he chose to post it indicates to me that this had malicious intent, even if it was a joke.

Hate crime investigation seems a bit much, though.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2015, 10:22:37 PM »

Seems a bit harsh of a punishment for a joke and/or genuine curiosity.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2015, 11:49:27 PM »

Seems a bit harsh of a punishment for a joke and/or genuine curiosity.
If criminal charges are filed, I'd agree, but expulsion from the frat seems appropriate to me.
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2015, 12:00:05 AM »

While it is a shame that such an ancient symbol has been so heavily tainted by it's association with Nazism, and I hope that someday it may be rehabilitated, the kid was a total idiot and got what he deserved. Context matters.

Given how many people the Nazis killed (It wasn't just Jews if you may recall), I don't believe the swastika should be rehabilitated...unless you're in India. Since India is it's original home, I see few problems with it there...but nowhere else.
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2015, 12:24:53 AM »

Nice completely misleading title you have there.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2015, 02:24:10 PM »

Nice completely misleading title you have there.

Uh, how so?

yes, we made all this joke when we were idiots in middle school who thought we were soo edgy, the kid knew what he was doing, he shouldn't act like some persecuted victim nor should he be surprised that he's in trouble for literally putting a swastika on a Jewish fraternity's wall
Interesting isn't it? How some people are allowed to try to subvert the symbolism used against them and others aren't.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2015, 02:59:24 PM »

Nice completely misleading title you have there.

Uh, how so?

yes, we made all this joke when we were idiots in middle school who thought we were soo edgy, the kid knew what he was doing, he shouldn't act like some persecuted victim nor should he be surprised that he's in trouble for literally putting a swastika on a Jewish fraternity's wall
Interesting isn't it? How some people are allowed to try to subvert the symbolism used against them and others aren't.

No sarcasm, that's a very interesting way to look at it, I hadn't even thought of that aspect.
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2015, 03:00:52 PM »

yes, we made all this joke when we were idiots in middle school who thought we were soo edgy, the kid knew what he was doing, he shouldn't act like some persecuted victim nor should he be surprised that he's in trouble for literally putting a swastika on a Jewish fraternity's wall
Interesting isn't it? How some people are allowed to try to subvert the symbolism used against them and others aren't.

I'm not really sure what you're talking about.
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2015, 10:46:26 PM »

The student knew what he was doing, but he shouldn't have been punished in any way.

It was a learning experience for the others, and that's what college is supposed to be about.
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2015, 12:38:25 AM »
« Edited: May 02, 2015, 12:45:04 AM by ag »

The guy is an idiot and the joke was not funny, but making it into a crime is even less funny. At the very most, it should be between him and his fraternity brothers.

Send them all to Finland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Training_Air_Wing,_Finnish_Air_Force
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2015, 11:38:31 AM »

While it is a shame that such an ancient symbol has been so heavily tainted by it's association with Nazism, and I hope that someday it may be rehabilitated, the kid was a total idiot and got what he deserved. Context matters.

Pretty much this. The symbol might have been seen as one of a positive nature before WW2, but after Nazi Germany stole it no one can claim that it means this anymore. This student not only embarrassed himself as an individual, but also as a Jewish person. Tikkun Olam is great, repairing the world and fixing it's problems through social justice is a great idea, but...you shouldn't throw your heritage and your roots under the bus to accomplish that.

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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2015, 09:13:28 PM »

WW2 stole the word 'propaganda' from the English language too.  or stole its innocence, better said.
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2015, 10:21:19 PM »

The student knew what he was doing, but he shouldn't have been punished in any way.

It was a learning experience for the others, and that's what college is supposed to be about.

Not anymore. Now it's about "safe spaces" from opposing ideas.
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2015, 09:54:10 AM »

While it is a shame that such an ancient symbol has been so heavily tainted by it's association with Nazism, and I hope that someday it may be rehabilitated, the kid was a total idiot and got what he deserved. Context matters.

Given how many people the Nazis killed (It wasn't just Jews if you may recall), I don't believe the swastika should be rehabilitated...unless you're in India. Since India is it's original home, I see few problems with it there...but nowhere else.

It is not just in India it is used (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika). I think more should be done to separate the Nazi Swastika (tilted 45 degrees) from the rest, though I guess it would be a bit of a mission impossible.

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