If the GOP keeps losing, when would a viable replacement party emerge?

[Simfan34]

Let us assume the GOP keeps on losing presidential elections. By which point would a third party come along that can seriously replace the GOP as the main right-of-center party? Or is it more likely that a new party would come along to challenge the Democrats from the left, making them the main right-wing party?

[Sumner 1868]

A replacement party would require not just repeatedly losing, but a defeat so massive that the party collapses. 1936 and 1964 did not kill the GOP, so I can't see what would.

[Rockefeller GOP]

Yep, GOP would just change in the necessary ways to remain viable.

[retromike22]

Yep, GOP would just change in the necessary ways to remain viable.

[Mister Mets]

The GOP's doing too well right now.

The party has majorities in Congress. In a horrible environment, McCain won 22 states and 45.7%.

They have to lose a lot worse for several cycles in order for a viable replacement party to be a possibility.

There would also be alternatives. The GOP could come roaring back after major losses if Democrats have a few bad breaks. But it would also be easier for Republicans to change than for someone else to replace them.

[Simfan34]

Yes, but what if they didn't change?

[Sumner 1868]

Yes, but what if they didn't change?

Sooner or later, they'll win out of pure fatigue.

[bobloblaw]

What a stupid post.

In case you havent noticed the GOP has MORE elected officials at federal, state and local than anytime since the 1920s. It is the Dem party that is deep in minority status. The Dem party is like the GOP during the Ford Administration. They control the WH and nothing else.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

What a stupid post.

In case you havent noticed the GOP has MORE elected officials at federal, state and local than anytime since the 1920s. It is the Dem party that is deep in minority status. The Dem party is like the GOP during the Ford Administration. They control the WH and nothing else.

When those 3 SCOTUS come about; Kennedy, Ginnsberg, and Scalia; sooner rather than later, the judicial branch will become an arm of the legislative branch and try to do away with everything Scalia and Reagan did during the Revolution.

I guess by 2024, since that will be the end of Clinton-Obama era.

The GOP will have to be patient; and nominate by then, a McCain-Teddy Roosevelt type, Sandoval, Martinez, George P Bush; appeal to Latinos.  Just like the Donkeys did, waiting out the Reagan Revolution, at the end of Dubya Bush years.

Dont feel too bad; aside from House and state legislatures, the GOP controls WallStreet.

[OSR stands with Israel]

What a stupid post.

In case you havent noticed the GOP has MORE elected officials at federal, state and local than anytime since the 1920s. It is the Dem party that is deep in minority status. The Dem party is like the GOP during the Ford Administration. They control the WH and nothing else.

When those 3 SCOTUS come about; Kennedy, Ginnsberg, and Scalia; sooner rather than later, the judicial branch will become an arm of the legislative branch and try to do away with everything Scalia and Reagan did during the Revolution.

I guess by 2024, since that will be the end of Clinton-Obama era.

The GOP will have to be patient; and nominate by then, a McCain-Teddy Roosevelt type, Sandoval, Martinez, George P Bush; appeal to Latinos.  Just like the Donkeys did, waiting out the Reagan Revolution, at the end of Dubya Bush years.

Dont feel too bad; aside from House and state legislatures, the GOP controls WallStreet.

2020 will be 1992 redux this time affecting the Democrats instead of the Republicans. The current economic expansion will likely end by 2020 causing a reccession the Dems will get the blame for and with ISIS growing. and with US troops leaving Afganistan more trouble heats up there the Dems will get the blame there as well, and with deficts still high another area where Dems will get the blame. If you want to stay in power longer hope that 2016 is a Repub win then you can take them out in 2020 and stay in power till 2032.


Right Now its like this

Nixon= Clinton(Creates a Winning Coalition for their party)
Carter=Bush(Both Damage their parties reputation for a long time)
Reagan=Obama(Destroys the New Deal/Silent Majority Coalition forever)
Bush= Hillary( Wins a 3rd term)
Clinton= ?

[Ebsy]

Suddenly all the people that predicted the nation would go into a terrible depression under Obama with businesses closing left and right and millions of people being forced onto the doll are predicting a recession by 2020. I wonder what valuable insight their econ 101 class gave them to make them feel comfortable enough to make such a prediction.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The reason for the GOP loss in 2008, was 3 fold. Scandals involving Cheney; Waterboarding and Abu Gharib, Outing CIA agent, and Palin ethics.  Also, the Iraq War; in addition to the economic collapse

Even if there was an economic crisis, all three colamaties of the Bush administration wont be there, and Dems will hold off the GOP. 

But, let the Dems win in 2016 first, and let 2018 and 2020 take care of itself.

[bobloblaw]

The reason for the GOP loss in 2008, was 3 fold. Scandals involving Cheney; Waterboarding and Abu Gharib, Outing CIA agent, and Palin ethics.  Also, the Iraq War; in addition to the economic collapse

Even if there was an economic crisis, all three colamaties of the Bush administration wont be there, and Dems will hold off the GOP. 

But, let the Dems win in 2016 first, and let 2018 and 2020 take care of itself.

Rubbish, scandals involving Cheney??? Outing a CIA agent??? Youre living in a leftwing bubble.

McCain lost because the economy and war in Iraq. Also you cant spell. In an economic CALAMITY, the GOP would not only win but the so called BLUE WALL would come crashing down.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

First female president is untested. But, in 2016; I expect the economy to make a comeback. It wont be at 0.02 percent.  Unemployment is at an all time low at 5.5 percent. In a rebound year nxt year.

[Ebsy]

First female president is untested. But, in 2016; I expect the economy to make a comeback. It wont be at 0.02 percent.  Unemployment is at an all time low at 5.5 percent. In a rebound year nxt year.

t_host?

[Mister Mets]

It seems just as plausible to ask about Democrats.

It's conceivable that the party will have some bad breaks, especially with Republican advantage in Congress and the courts.

If a Republican wins in 2016 and does reasonably well in reelection in 2020, it'll likely coincide with the  party dominating redistricting.  And it's always possible the party will keep the White House in 2024 and later, either due to bad breaks or Democratic errors.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The reason for the GOP loss in 2008, was 3 fold. Scandals involving Cheney; Waterboarding and Abu Gharib, Outing CIA agent, and Palin ethics.  Also, the Iraq War; in addition to the economic collapse

Even if there was an economic crisis, all three colamaties of the Bush administration wont be there, and Dems will hold off the GOP. 

But, let the Dems win in 2016 first, and let 2018 and 2020 take care of itself.

Palin ethics? Palin competence maybe.

The rest of that was ridiculous. The economy dominated the election of 2008. Iraq was also barely even a factor except as another mark against the competence of the GOP.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

They don't need the Presidency when they have the House, Senate, Supreme Court, media, and the Presidents are spineless like Clinton and Obama.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

First female president is untested. But, in 2016; I expect the economy to make a comeback. It wont be at 0.02 percent.  Unemployment is at an all time low at 5.5 percent. In a rebound year nxt year.

Railroad Tycoon 2 is one of my favorite games of all time.

Most of all, aside from the blues, bluegrass and jazz soundtrack, is the newspaper headlines.

ECONOMY SURGES AHEAD!!!!
Experts Predict Perpetual Growth

An hour later

ECONOMY CRASHES!!!

This may not be the nineteenth century, but no expansion lasts forever.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

They don't need the Presidency when they have the House, Senate, Supreme Court, media, and the Presidents are spineless like Clinton and Obama.

What did Michael Moore call Clinton? "The best GOP President since Ike?"

Something like that.

[Slander and/or Libel]

The GOP would just become more conservative

Because insufficient conservatism is always the explanation for a loss.

[Rockefeller GOP]

They don't need the Presidency when they have the House, Senate, Supreme Court, media, and the Presidents are spineless like Clinton and Obama.

As long as you realize just how far out of the mainstream you are, especially calling the media conservative, God bless you for your posts!  They're great, LOL.

[Ebsy]

The media isn't conservative, but it sure falls hard over itself to help the Republicans.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Reagan and Nixon did perfectly well with divided govt. It is so much a problem; that the GOP, not Dems are worried that Obama and Hilary may have to face.

It is only until the end of the decade; and Congress will level off, as bulk of GOP governors are term limited and reapportionment will be back.

Xavier Beracera; not Pelosi wil be next Speaker, after Boehner.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

They don't need the Presidency when they have the House, Senate, Supreme Court, media, and the Presidents are spineless like Clinton and Obama.

As long as you realize just how far out of the mainstream you are, especially calling the media conservative, God bless you for your posts!  They're great, LOL.

The media is conservative, except for Salon.com. The rest of the media didn't dare criticize Bush for over a year after he failed to prevent 9/11. Salon.com had the balls to have this article the next day. Crickets from the NY Times, Washington Post, NPR, and the rest of the supposedly liberal media. Gary Hart is of course a FF.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010917041617/http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/09/12/bush/index.html