If SCOTUS legalizes SSM...

[Bojack Horseman]

How will the ruling be enforced if SCOTUS does legalize same-sex marriage? I'm just kind of concerned about how we'd force states like Kansas and Alabama to comply with the ruling and start issuing/recognizing same-sex marriages. We all know what's going on with Roy Moore in Alabama, and in Kansas, despite the fact that same-sex marriage has been legal since November 7, 2014, Sam Brownback has repeatedly stated that he doesn't care what the courts say, and that Kansas will not under any circumstances recognize gay marriages, period, end of discussion. If this happens, what legal recourse do same-sex couples have at that point?

[Ebsy]

Sue them into oblivion.

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Sue them into oblivion.

[SteveRogers]

You'd sue the individual county clerk who refused to grant you a marriage license in federal court, potentially along with any judge who actively stands in the way. Then an injunction would be issued ordering the clerk to issue the marriage license. Then if they still won't give it to you, they can eventually be held in contempt.

[Bojack Horseman]

You'd sue the individual county clerk who refused to grant you a marriage license in federal court, potentially along with any judge who actively stands in the way. Then an injunction would be issued ordering the clerk to issue the marriage license. Then if they still won't give it to you, they can eventually be held in contempt.

The problem is that so many couples can't afford to just hire a lawyer and go to court to get a marriage license. Maybe the ACLU would bring a class-action suit?

[SteveRogers]

You'd sue the individual county clerk who refused to grant you a marriage license in federal court, potentially along with any judge who actively stands in the way. Then an injunction would be issued ordering the clerk to issue the marriage license. Then if they still won't give it to you, they can eventually be held in contempt.

The problem is that so many couples can't afford to just hire a lawyer and go to court to get a marriage license. Maybe the ACLU would bring a class-action suit?

Yeah, I'm sure the ACLU and various other groups would jump in to get the ball rolling. You'd probably only need to make an example out of a couple obstructionist clerks before the rest would back off.

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[Stranger in a strange land]

Which brings us back to the question of which governor is most likely to stand in a doorway to prevent a gay couple from getting married. I'm starting to think that Brownback actually might.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Which brings us back to the question of which governor is most likely to stand in a doorway to prevent a gay couple from getting married. I'm starting to think that Brownback actually might.

I wouldn't rule it out for Bentley (AL), Bryant (MS) and Jindal (LA).

[Likely Voter]

Are you kidding, Jindal has already picked out his outfit for this.

[pbrower2a]

Utah has it right. If someone capable of issuing a marriage license has a religious objection to authorizing SSM, then that person may either issue the license or refer the prospective couple to someone who would authorize it.

In some states that might be a volunteer. I WOULD DO SO IF I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

How will the ruling be enforced if SCOTUS does legalize same-sex marriage? I'm just kind of concerned about how we'd force states like Kansas and Alabama to comply with the ruling and start issuing/recognizing same-sex marriages. We all know what's going on with Roy Moore in Alabama, and in Kansas, despite the fact that same-sex marriage has been legal since November 7, 2014, Sam Brownback has repeatedly stated that he doesn't care what the courts say, and that Kansas will not under any circumstances recognize gay marriages, period, end of discussion. If this happens, what legal recourse do same-sex couples have at that point?

And Brownback would be in the right for doing so. The Federal Appellate Courts shouldn't have any legal jurisdiction at all. Wish my governor had the stones to fight back.

[SteveRogers]

How will the ruling be enforced if SCOTUS does legalize same-sex marriage? I'm just kind of concerned about how we'd force states like Kansas and Alabama to comply with the ruling and start issuing/recognizing same-sex marriages. We all know what's going on with Roy Moore in Alabama, and in Kansas, despite the fact that same-sex marriage has been legal since November 7, 2014, Sam Brownback has repeatedly stated that he doesn't care what the courts say, and that Kansas will not under any circumstances recognize gay marriages, period, end of discussion. If this happens, what legal recourse do same-sex couples have at that point?

And Brownback would be in the right for doing so. The Federal Appellate Courts shouldn't have any legal jurisdiction at all. Wish my governor had the stones to fight back.

You are aware that this
 
 
didn't actually work, right?

[Ebsy]

I would pay good money for footage of Brownback standing in the door of some county clerk's office in Lawrence.

[HAnnA MArin County]

Brownbag will side with his Westboro Baptist Church constituents. Nothing to see here.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

The Federal Appellate Courts shouldn't have any legal jurisdiction at all.

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[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

...then it will be legal in the remaining 12 states, in addition to the restrictions on MO, AL, and KS being removed.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Opposition within State governments will die with a whimper. It's not like this is something where a State can effectively nullify a federal obligation because their is no external will to enforce it (Like REAL ID or medical marijuana). If a lawful couple attempts to get married and are turned away, its not like they'll shrug their shoulders and call the whole thing off. The only people who REALLY care are the people actually exercising the right. You may have a few dozen local dicks refuse to do it, but with the media being the media, said dicks will be quickly fired. Even in Mississippi. I just don't see an entire State government foreclosing gay marriage after a Supreme Court ruling. FF&C would demand it.

[CountryClassSF]

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Me too. A total disappointment.

[NeverAgain]

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Me too. A total disappointment.

That's what you get for living in state ruled by a level headed tyrant.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

...Then a thread in Atlas will be called "...And now the other 12 states"

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

The Federal Appellate Courts shouldn't have any legal jurisdiction at all.

what

Article 1 Section 8 prohibits any federal jurisdiction on marriage. This one legally belongs to the states.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

The Federal Appellate Courts shouldn't have any legal jurisdiction at all.

what

Article 1 Section 8 prohibits any federal jurisdiction on marriage. This one legally belongs to the states.

Then you agree that Windsor was correct in overturning DOMA two years ago? Not that it matters much as Obergefell wasn't decided on the basis of what the Congress can do, but on the basis of what the States can't do.

[Bojack Horseman]

Bumpity bump bump...

Even the Supreme Court can't convince Kim Davis that she has no other legal option.

[SteveRogers]

Bumpity bump bump...

Even the Supreme Court can't convince Kim Davis that she has no other legal option.

By the looks of it she's about to get slapped with some fines for contempt. Let's see how far she's willing to take this.