Map Accuracy?

[??????????]

Opebo (our favorite molestor apologist) posted this a while back. Do you think this map is accurate at all?

[bgwah]

Maybe. I don't think Washington would have had many, the only one I can think of is a Wobbly getting lynched a long time ago, although certainly they're have been more.

I will check out the sources listed...

http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/lynchings/Alabama%20Lynchings.htm

Do I have any reason not to believe that?



Washington looks accurate
http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/lynchings/Washington%20Lynchings.htm

[??????????]

Maybe. I don't think Washington would have had many, the only one I can think of is a Wobbly getting lynched a long time ago, although certainly they're have been more.

I will check out the sources listed...

http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/lynchings/Alabama%20Lynchings.htm

Do I have any reason not to believe that?



Washington looks accurate
http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/lynchings/Washington%20Lynchings.htm

I'm sorry but they consider this to be a lynching.

[bgwah]

Maybe. I don't think Washington would have had many, the only one I can think of is a Wobbly getting lynched a long time ago, although certainly they're have been more.

I will check out the sources listed...

http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/lynchings/Alabama%20Lynchings.htm

Do I have any reason not to believe that?



Washington looks accurate
http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/lynchings/Washington%20Lynchings.htm

I'm sorry but they consider this to be a lynching.

Well Washington state looks accurate from what I looked at.



And I don't see "Big Mary" included for Tennessee...

[Lunar]

Perhaps.  Other states have different  mechanisms to murder people.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/usa-riot.htm

[opebo]

I'm sorry but they consider this to be a lynching.

So what is your argument here?  That all those lynchings in the South were not in fact Black Men but instead Rogue Elephants?   Fanciful, I'll give you that. 

However, the reality is that your hateful, violent culture oppressed blacks - as well as no doubt dissenting whites - for centuries.  Why can't you face it, as the saying goes 'Cracker, your heritage is Hate. 

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The map at the top of the thread is extremely deceptive; look at the apparent methodology.

Compare that map to the map in the link I posted

[opebo]

look at the apparent methodology.

Looks fine to me.  What are you talking about?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Can you read?

[opebo]

Can you read?

Yes.  Can you type?  I would like to for you to explain what you are alluding to in your little one-sentence posts.  I don't see anything wrong with the 'methodology'.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

If you have a scrap of intellectual honesty in you, you'll know what's misleading about it.

[minionofmidas]

"Adjusted for present-day population", is what he's talking about. However, that should probably make the map look rather less damning...or maybe I'm trying to think after several hours in the sunshine.

[minionofmidas]

Apart from that, Opebo's map is much easier to understand and much more focussed than Al's...oh, and Al's focusses the blame more exclusively on the South rather than the South and Interior West.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It's not actually my map. It's This guys.

I hate it (really, really hate it) when people distort maps to make petty points; I think it's because I watched a TV programme on it when I was little.

The blue/red map is distorting the map to make a cheap political point. The scale is disgraceful as well.

[minionofmidas]

You mean the "swing" pun? Yeah, not nice.
It's "your" map as in the one posted by you, ie in the same sense that the other is Opebo's.

[opebo]

It's not actually my map. It's This guys.

I hate it (really, really hate it) when people distort maps to make petty points; I think it's because I watched a TV programme on it when I was little.

The blue/red map is distorting the map to make a cheap political point. The scale is disgraceful as well.

So, after making us play the guessing game, it is the colours to which you object?  Sheesh, the point wasn't that most of the US is/was oppressive and violent, but that the South is.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

You mean the "swing" pun? Yeah, not nice.

Not just that: look at the values in the scale.

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Ah... I see now

[Filuwaúrdjan]

So, after making us play the guessing game, it is the colours to which you object?

The colours used to show the statistics in map form are important

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I don't care what the point was supposed to be. That map is intellectually dishonest filth.

[minionofmidas]

You mean the "swing" pun? Yeah, not nice.

Not just that: look at the values in the scale.

How so? I don't get it.

[opebo]

So, after making us play the guessing game, it is the colours to which you object?

The colours used to show the statistics in map form are important

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I don't care what the point was supposed to be. That map is intellectually dishonest filth.

Well it is hardly as filthy as lynching people.

[DanielX]

The map actually has a point. Lynchings were most common in two cases:

1. In the deep south, for keeping the uppity negroes 'in their place'.

2. In the wild wild west (mainly plains and rocky mountain states), where the only justice was vigilante justice.

I bet in most cases, especially in #2 states, that most of the lynchings were pre-1900.

[Hitchabrut]

No

[Filuwaúrdjan]

0-3
4-10
11+

Makes no logical sense. Makes a lot of sense if your fiddling a map to prove a point.

[opebo]

0-3
4-10
11+

Makes no logical sense. Makes a lot of sense if your fiddling a map to prove a point.

Oh.  So 0-5, 5-10, and 10+ would be 'logical'?

However I do see your point that he was probably fiddling some states in and some states out.  Of course that doesn't the overall point that the South is the most violent and vicious part of a violent and vicious nation.