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[Gustaf]

1. Gustaf (Gus might be the appropriate English shortform).
2. Sweden, I doubt more precise information is meaningful...
3. In Sweden, moderate (which means conservative, which means European liberal), in the UK tory or New Labour, in the US Democrat (most of the time!)
4. Hard, Jefferson.
5.  Winston Churchill
6. I just did...
7. I surfed the net looking for info on the EC.
8. The insights you get and those who succeed at being non-partisan.
9. History, reading, learning things.
10. Way too many to write down.
11. A lot, but mostly from the 60s.
12. I have never actually been to the US...

[Gustaf]

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WHY?

I am supposing that you mean why I would vote for the dem nominee, and the answer would then be two main reasons which contradict each other (the reason for the consistency quote).

1. I am genuinely worried about parts of the christian right and the neo-conservatives. I am not confident they have the common sense to see when to back off and when to keep away from the big button. To me some of these people come off as fanatics and they are running the risk of alienating the entire world.

2. I don't trust GWB. I know this will get his supporters here come down on me, so please don't kill me. He doesn't strike me as genuine, there is just too much money and connections everywhere. He is saying very much the same things as Tony Blair, but Blair conveys an image of actually believing in it. I am aware that this could be really unfair and a lot of things point at it being an unfair judgement, but then again it all comes down to gut feeling.

3. And, yeah, also he let down free trade which was the main reason for my favoring him in the last election.    

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A)  Christian Right and Neo-conservatives are two VERY different things so its not like they are working together for eeevil or anything.  Most full-Christian righters are angry with the Bush administration for its tacit support of gay rights and many populists don't like the Iraq war.  Most neocons think that the christian right just gets in the way too much

B) The vast majority of the Republican party is comprised of moderates, moderate-conservatives, and 'normal' conservatives and libertarians.  We aren't as whacko as the European media would have you believe.  Ok some of us are, but most of us arent

My point wasn't that neo-conservatives and the christian right are the same thing and I know that not all republicans are whackos! I just don't trust a lot of the people around Bush to say "Hey, wait a minute we can't do this". I got the feeling that they wouldn't stop at anything. The intrusions of the state into individuals personal freedoms like those prisoners on Cuba..., I just don't like it.    

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So you'd trust Howard Dean?  I guess that is more of a personal decision as to whether you trust someone or not.  But I will tell you that from my perspective the #1 reason to vote for President Bush is because I DO trust him.  I trust that he does what he does because of his faith and conviction.  Both parties have leaders who have business connections and many of these are suspect (don't get me started on Linda Daschle!) so you shouldn't single out Bush.

Well, maybe so. It just seems more pronounced in Bush, but as I said is not really logical I just feel a strong inclination against him, that's all.

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So you'd prefer a candidate like Howard Dean who is 100% opposed to free trade???

I agree Dean would be a bit of a mothful, and Iäm not sure I would have the moral strength to vote for him (then again I'm not allowed to vote, so...).

Dude, you aren't a socialist, get a blue icon

You're right I'm not a socialist! If I can handle the embarassement I might well change my mind...

Well, there is another thing though! I believe it's important with changes in power. The GOP is becoming a little too dominant and that isn't healthy.  

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A)  Christian Right and Neo-conservatives are two VERY different things so its not like they are working together for eeevil or anything.  Most full-Christian righters are angry with the Bush administration for its tacit support of gay rights and many populists don't like the Iraq war.  Most neocons think that the christian right just gets in the way too much

B) The vast majority of the Republican party is comprised of moderates, moderate-conservatives, and 'normal' conservatives and libertarians.  We aren't as whacko as the European media would have you believe.  Ok some of us are, but most of us arent

My point wasn't that neo-conservatives and the christian right are the same thing and I know that not all republicans are whackos! I just don't trust a lot of the people around Bush to say "Hey, wait a minute we can't do this". I got the feeling that they wouldn't stop at anything. The intrusions of the state into individuals personal freedoms like those prisoners on Cuba..., I just don't like it.    

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So you'd trust Howard Dean?  I guess that is more of a personal decision as to whether you trust someone or not.  But I will tell you that from my perspective the #1 reason to vote for President Bush is because I DO trust him.  I trust that he does what he does because of his faith and conviction.  Both parties have leaders who have business connections and many of these are suspect (don't get me started on Linda Daschle!) so you shouldn't single out Bush.

Well, maybe so. It just seems more pronounced in Bush, but as I said is not really logical I just feel a strong inclination against him, that's all.

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So you'd prefer a candidate like Howard Dean who is 100% opposed to free trade???

I agree Dean would be a bit of a mothful, and Iäm not sure I would have the moral strength to vote for him (then again I'm not allowed to vote, so...).

Dude, you aren't a socialist, get a blue icon

You're right I'm not a socialist! If I can handle the embarassement I might well change my mind...

Well, there is another thing though! I believe it's important with changes in power. The GOP is becoming a little too dominant and that isn't healthy.  

Well, this didn't come out right. I accidentally put parts of my response within the qoute barriers:). I think you will recognize your own post so I won't bother. I'm sorry though.

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TOO DOMINANT??? AIEEE!!!  We endure 140 years of Democrats controlling EVERYTHING and now that we are catching up and control the majority of legislatures, governorships, congress, and the Presidency (all of which the Dems had before 1994) you are saying that we are too dominant!  *has a heartattack*  ARRRGH! Let us catch our breaths for a moment then we will talk about dominance! EEEEE!

Here in Tennessee, we and our dominant selves are desperately trying to oust a corrupt Democrat regime in our state house and senate that has been in place since.... well... since forever.  I don't even think we had GOP control of the legislature during reconstruction! Democrats fought our attempts to open up and reform the legislature along with having recorded votes in committee meetings.  We'll get 'em eventually, but it may take a few more years.

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A)  Christian Right and Neo-conservatives are two VERY different things so its not like they are working together for eeevil or anything.  Most full-Christian righters are angry with the Bush administration for its tacit support of gay rights and many populists don't like the Iraq war.  Most neocons think that the christian right just gets in the way too much

B) The vast majority of the Republican party is comprised of moderates, moderate-conservatives, and 'normal' conservatives and libertarians.  We aren't as whacko as the European media would have you believe.  Ok some of us are, but most of us arent

My point wasn't that neo-conservatives and the christian right are the same thing and I know that not all republicans are whackos! I just don't trust a lot of the people around Bush to say "Hey, wait a minute we can't do this". I got the feeling that they wouldn't stop at anything. The intrusions of the state into individuals personal freedoms like those prisoners on Cuba..., I just don't like it.    

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So you'd trust Howard Dean?  I guess that is more of a personal decision as to whether you trust someone or not.  But I will tell you that from my perspective the #1 reason to vote for President Bush is because I DO trust him.  I trust that he does what he does because of his faith and conviction.  Both parties have leaders who have business connections and many of these are suspect (don't get me started on Linda Daschle!) so you shouldn't single out Bush.

Well, maybe so. It just seems more pronounced in Bush, but as I said is not really logical I just feel a strong inclination against him, that's all.

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So you'd prefer a candidate like Howard Dean who is 100% opposed to free trade???

I agree Dean would be a bit of a mothful, and Iäm not sure I would have the moral strength to vote for him (then again I'm not allowed to vote, so...).

Dude, you aren't a socialist, get a blue icon

You're right I'm not a socialist! If I can handle the embarassement I might well change my mind...

Well, there is another thing though! I believe it's important with changes in power. The GOP is becoming a little too dominant and that isn't healthy.  

Well, OK, so maybe they have been dominant, but right now things are looking pretty good right? The democrats have been doing badly in presidential elections ever since Eisenhower got in and now they are losing control of congress, there's not much left.

But I don't want to give you a heartattack so I'll backoff and not press the issue...

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Also, I notice most people here are much older than me- I'm 17 and a senior in high school.

I'm not much older than you, M. I'm only 20, a college student. Remember, it's always good to be young and politically active. Having said that, there should be MORE young people at this forum, because most of the members of this forum are old fogeys who voted in every election since 1860. Many of them make Strom Thurmond look like a toddler. (Just kidding, of course)

I'm sixteen, so I beat all of you!

[Gustaf]

1. Reuben
2. Houston, TX
3. Republican
4. George Washington
5. Winston Churchill
6. From my dad. He grew up in SC and was th first Republican in his family ever. He still has a "help uncle Strom elect Nixon" bumpersticker in the attic.
As for a specific event, probably the Oslo War (begen Rosh Hashana, in September, 2000, ongoing.)
7. From a friend about a year ago. I looked at some maps, thought "neat!" and left. I just recently stumbled on this site again and found the forum.
8. I really like the primary maps, and hope more come out soon.
9. Any PC games with the Europa Universalis engine, other favorite games are FF7 and Ocarina of Time. Also Red Alert 2. Reading politics and Fantasy (I've just rediscovered Tolkien for obvious reasons, first read the hobbit at 7 and LOTR at 10, Silmarillion at 12. Hated Silmarillion. Chris Tolkien can't write.)
10. Monty Python and the Holy Grail, tied with Spaceballs
11. Battle Cry of Freedom (George F. Root), tied with Swanee River (Stephen Collins Foster)
12. I'm a llama!
Also, I notice most people here are much older than me- I'm 17 and a senior in high school.

We have scary similarities. I also love Europa Universalis, fantasy, Monty Python and Mel Brooks. Heard Battle Cry of Freedom in connection with playing Battleground-games. I wouldn't call it my favourite, but I definitely liked it. I played Red Alert I but never got around to buying number II.

Still, nice to have someone around with a similar profile!

[Gustaf]

1. Reuben
2. Houston, TX
3. Republican
4. George Washington
5. Winston Churchill
6. From my dad. He grew up in SC and was th first Republican in his family ever. He still has a "help uncle Strom elect Nixon" bumpersticker in the attic.
As for a specific event, probably the Oslo War (begen Rosh Hashana, in September, 2000, ongoing.)
7. From a friend about a year ago. I looked at some maps, thought "neat!" and left. I just recently stumbled on this site again and found the forum.
8. I really like the primary maps, and hope more come out soon.
9. Any PC games with the Europa Universalis engine, other favorite games are FF7 and Ocarina of Time. Also Red Alert 2. Reading politics and Fantasy (I've just rediscovered Tolkien for obvious reasons, first read the hobbit at 7 and LOTR at 10, Silmarillion at 12. Hated Silmarillion. Chris Tolkien can't write.)
10. Monty Python and the Holy Grail, tied with Spaceballs
11. Battle Cry of Freedom (George F. Root), tied with Swanee River (Stephen Collins Foster)
12. I'm a llama!
Also, I notice most people here are much older than me- I'm 17 and a senior in high school.

We have scary similarities. I also love Europa Universalis, fantasy, Monty Python and Mel Brooks. Heard Battle Cry of Freedom in connection with playing Battleground-games. I wouldn't call it my favourite, but I definitely liked it. I played Red Alert I but never got around to buying number II.

Still, nice to have someone around with a similar profile!

That is cool! Just got Vicky last night, haven't quite figured out the basics yet. Do you use the paradox forum? If so, what is your username?

No I don't, but probably will now! I love the historically contradicting things you can do, so I am constantly trying to get somewhere with the aztecs or China. Feel free to mail me about the forum.

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Sorry, would have done this sooner if not for my long absence.



1. Chris
2. Reynoldsville, PA  (I go to school in Erie, PA so I spend most of the year up there, but I'm originally from Reynoldsville and I don't plan to move back after school, I might stay in Erie, but I'm thinking of moving south to Virginia or North Carolina)
3. Republican
4. Reagan
5. Churchill
6. I just sorta did.  My family is Republican on one side and Democrat on the other.  The Democrat side turned me off.
7. Hmmm.  Discovered the atlas first, about a year ago.  Discovered the forum a month and a half ago.
8. Don't have many friends who are political (even though I'm a Poli Sci major, so go figure).  So I like to discuss subjects and get others oppinions.
9. History, Reading, Writing (mainly political thrillers and counter-factual stories, nothing published) Baseball and Football.
10. Lord of the Rings (all three)
      Saving Private Ryan
      Gettysburg
      Patton
11. Don't know, really.
12. Nothing really.  You can ask if you want to know.

P.S.  This reminds me of a dating website LOL

I love counter-factual histories! (political thrillers too, but that's not as unusual and hence less interesting.) Btw, it seems Churchill and LOTR comes up rather often here. What does that say about us?

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Wasn't Churchill half-American?

I love counter-factual histories! (political thrillers too, but that's not as unusual and hence less interesting.)

For a combination of both, I recommend Fatherland by Robert Harris. An excellent counterfactual thriller, in case you haven't read it already.

Oh! I've read it and loved it! (I epsecially liked the cover, with an EU-flag and a Swastika flag. Unfair but fun.) Have you read Archangel by Harris? I thought that was great as well.  

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Unfortunately, I haven't read Archangel. What's it about?

An American or British (I can't remember which right now) historian is visiting Russia in the 90s, and hears about Stalin's notebook. He starts searching for it, but is rivaled by die-hard stalinists. Something very unexpected then develops, reavealing dark secrets...

I can't really tell you much about it, though, since it would ruin the reading. Still, I found it highly enjoyable. It was one of those books which I was stupid enough to lend a friend and never got back.

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Unfortunately, I haven't read Archangel. What's it about?

An American or British (I can't remember which right now) historian is visiting Russia in the 90s, and hears about Stalin's notebook. He starts searching for it, but is rivaled by die-hard stalinists. Something very unexpected then develops, reavealing dark secrets...

Sounds interesting, I think I'll check it out. Thanks.

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I hate it when that happens.

You're welcome, hope you will find it and enjoy it. When it comes to borrowing books I am being slightly hypocritical. It has happened that I have borrowed books and not returned them. It is more due to a wandering mind and being a bad organizer than anything else.

[Gustaf]

What's your name? Dean
Where do you live? Hawaii
What's your political affiliation (Rep, Dem, Ind)? Rep
Who's your favourite President of all-time? T.R.
Who's your favourite international leader of all-time? The Iron Lady
How did you get interested in politics? Goldwater campaign
How did you discover this forum? Google
What do you like most about it? Quality of discussion
What are your other interests, apart from politics? History (British Empire)
What's your favourite movie? Dr. Strangelove
What's your favourite song? Amen chorus from Handel’s “Messiah”
Anything else you'd like to mention? Don’t change the Atlas colors!

Dr. Strangelove is great! Funny with a republican named Dean coming from Hawaii. The first guy from Hawaii on the forum that I have seen so far!

[Gustaf]

I'm a YaBB God! Glory!

[Gustaf]

I'm a YaBB God! Glory!

Damn all you YaBB Gods!!!

Why don't you join us?

[Gustaf]

I'm a YaBB God! Glory!
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Damn all you YaBB Gods!!!

Why don't you join us?

Yeah!  Make some pyramids!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[Gustaf]

LOL...

You will get jvravnsbo after you for that suggestion...

[Gustaf]

LOL...

You will get jvravnsbo after you for that suggestion...

He really doesn't have a leg to stand on since he has more posts than any of us.

Dan: pyramids work well!

I think he got that...

[Gustaf]

1. What's your name? Carey

2. Where do you live? Adelaide, Australia

3. What's your political affiliation (Rep, Dem, Ind)? I am centre-left, so in the US  that'd make me a Democrat most likely.

4. Who's your favourite President of all-time? Historical: Thomas Jefferson, 20th Century: Harry Truman.

5. Who's your favourite international leader of all-time? My own country: Gough Whitlam, International: Nelson Mandela

6. How did you get interested in politics? I dunno, just one of those things, I just started getting into, and I am particularly fond of the US electoral system.

7. How did you discover this forum? Got referred to this site from another forum.

8. What do you like most about it? The site: in depth detail of the US election history
The forum: the fact that's it's a non-partisan political forum, where people aren't accusing eachother of being "neocon fascists" or "socialist radicals" or whatever.

9. What are your other interests, apart from politics? Reading, Writing, Art, Soccer and generally just experiencing and learning new things.

10. What's your favourite movie? Lord of the Rings: Return of the King.

11. What's your favourite song? 'My Immortal' by Evanescence

12. Anything else you'd like to mention? Favourite Novel: 'Le Petit Prince' by Antoine de St-Exupéry
ummm errr...can't think of anything else.

Welcome to the forum! It was so many years ago that I last read Le Petit Prince, that I don't remember much except for the snake that swallowed an elephant!

I should reread it sometime (though come to think of it I probably had it read out loud for me, I was so young at that time).

[Gustaf]

1. What's your name? Carey

2. Where do you live? Adelaide, Australia

3. What's your political affiliation (Rep, Dem, Ind)? I am centre-left, so in the US  that'd make me a Democrat most likely.

4. Who's your favourite President of all-time? Historical: Thomas Jefferson, 20th Century: Harry Truman.

5. Who's your favourite international leader of all-time? My own country: Gough Whitlam, International: Nelson Mandela

6. How did you get interested in politics? I dunno, just one of those things, I just started getting into, and I am particularly fond of the US electoral system.

7. How did you discover this forum? Got referred to this site from another forum.

8. What do you like most about it? The site: in depth detail of the US election history
The forum: the fact that's it's a non-partisan political forum, where people aren't accusing eachother of being "neocon fascists" or "socialist radicals" or whatever.

9. What are your other interests, apart from politics? Reading, Writing, Art, Soccer and generally just experiencing and learning new things.

10. What's your favourite movie? Lord of the Rings: Return of the King.

11. What's your favourite song? 'My Immortal' by Evanescence

12. Anything else you'd like to mention? Favourite Novel: 'Le Petit Prince' by Antoine de St-Exupéry
ummm errr...can't think of anything else.

Welcome to the forum! It was so many years ago that I last read Le Petit Prince, that I don't remember much except for the snake that swallowed an elephant!

I should reread it sometime (though come to think of it I probably had it read out loud for me, I was so young at that time).

thanks for the welcome

Yeah, I read it in high school French. The novel and its intended message just moved me so much it has been a permanent favourite.

Oh, no problem. I felt the recently aquired YaBB God status allowed me to welcome people...

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Just a little survey so we can all get to know each other. You don't have to answer all the questions, just have some fun.

1. What's your name?
2. Where do you live?
3. What's your political affiliation (Rep, Dem, Ind)?
4. Who's your favourite President of all-time?
5. Who's your favourite international leader of all-time?
6. How did you get interested in politics?
7. How did you discover this forum?
8. What do you like most about it?
9. What are your other interests, apart from politics?
10. What's your favourite movie?
11. What's your favourite song?
12. Anything else you'd like to mention?

1. Andrew
2. Long Island, New York
3. Moderate Republican
4. Reagan, Kennedy, Both Roosevelts, Lincoln
5. Churchhill
6. Family, News
7. Saw it on the main site.
8. Other peoples opinions and now the fantasy election.
9. Films, History
10. Star Wars Trilogy(The Original 3), Friday the 13th
11. Johnny Cash- Folsom Prison Blues, Toby Keith- The Angry American. I also listen to alot of film scores.
12. Nope

Nice with a moderate Republican, they don't seem to be that common, and also nice with a Republican taking a real interest in the Fantasy Election!

Btw, have anyone so far stated another international leader than Winston Churchill? Is that just b/c most of you don't know anyone else?

I'm a big Churchill fan, but aren't there others out there?

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YoungRepub is on Long Island too!  Cool!

Where exactly on Long Island are you Young Repub?

"I know where you live..."

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12. I'd just like to restate that I am not a woman

lol

We believe you, we believe you...

Harry,

I don't think cairo has been on for months, you know.

I see some good movies have been mentioned now...Casablanca and War Games are both great. And Good Will Hunting as well. I'm not gonna comment on Indiana Jones and the last Crusade though, lol.

And Charles V? Excuse me?

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He was an excellent leader.

He failed to adress the religious problems and the conflicts within the Holy Roman Empire. Even though he brought the Hapsburg dyansty to its height of power, he created an empire that was completely unsustainable.

[Gustaf]

He was an excellent leader.

He failed to adress the religious problems and the conflicts within the Holy Roman Empire. Even though he brought the Hapsburg dyansty to its height of power, he created an empire that was completely unsustainable.

Ah, the Hapsburgs, my family.

Lol, never liked the Hapsburgs, comes from being Swedish...