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King of Kensington
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« on: April 30, 2015, 02:11:38 PM »

I think that to conflate "true leftists" with "cultural elites" is kind of silly. When I think of the stereotype of a New York Times reader from an upper middle class suburb I don't think liberal do much as a fiscal moderate+social liberal who would in an earlier generation have been a Rockefeller Republican. On a lot of issues like expanding social security, raising the minimum wage etc I think that if you asked a lot of people they'd probably lean left on all of them, it's just that liberal has a negative cultural connotation. I bet that on fiscal issues plenty of working class white people are to the left of the suburban yuppie/whole foods stereotype.

Yes, thank you.  So-called coastal elites are socially liberal but are not "left-wing."  In the UK, many of these people would vote Tory and in Canada their party of choice would be the centrist Liberal Party not the social democratic NDP. 

Keep in mind that the very elite sections of the Upper East Side did not vote for De Blasio. 
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King of Kensington
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2015, 02:13:04 PM »
« Edited: April 30, 2015, 02:43:35 PM by King of Kensington »


Why is that at all surprising?  Upper middle class Democrats are more consistent because they're not voting their pocketbook.  
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King of Kensington
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2015, 04:15:14 PM »

It's not like Park Slope (which obviously did vote for de Blasio) is any sort of salt-of-the-earth working-class bastion, though.

No, but "limousine liberal" or "champagne socialist" districts - like Park Slope or London's Hampstead, or Toronto's Annex district - are hardly representative of the elite as a whole. 
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King of Kensington
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2015, 04:26:09 PM »

Is there really a "WASP/Jewish" difference between UES and UWS anymore? 
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King of Kensington
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2015, 05:00:06 PM »

It is wealthier and has fewer artistic/intellectual types.  Both areas are about 30% Jewish - the days of wealthy Jews preferring the UWS because the UES is too WASP/exclusive are long over. 
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King of Kensington
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2015, 06:09:58 PM »
« Edited: April 30, 2015, 06:11:33 PM by King of Kensington »

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That's why upper middle class liberals love the "99%" analysis of Occupy Wall St.
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