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« on: April 30, 2015, 10:03:17 PM »

What do you think of the word "thug"? Do you think political correctness is behind the criticism of the word?
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2015, 10:21:12 PM »

It's fine, as long as its accurately describing someone. In before the PC police arrive.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2015, 10:23:55 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2015, 10:36:50 PM »

9 out of 10 times it's used it's a racial dog whistle.
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2015, 10:38:56 PM »
« Edited: April 30, 2015, 10:42:12 PM by cinyc »

9 out of 10 times it's used it's a racial dog whistle.

Especially when "progressives" call Republicans "Rethuglicans".

The PC police need to go away and stop telling people what they can and can't say.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2015, 10:50:17 PM »

I don't think it's the province of a bunch of white people on the internet to decide what is and isn't racially charged, I really can't think of any legitimate use of this particular word that other words wouldn't capture just as well, and there is a big honking difference between advocating prudence and restraint and tact in word choice and being 'PC police' who want to 'tell people what they can and can't say'.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2015, 10:54:47 PM »

9 out of 10 times it's used it's a racial dog whistle.

Especially when "progressives" call Republicans "Rethuglicans".

The PC police need to go away and stop telling people what they can and can't say.

No one is telling you what you can't say. People are just calling you a racist when you say racist things.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2015, 11:04:34 PM »

No one is telling you what you can't say. People are just calling you a racist when you say racist things.

I think it's ironic that Internet "progressives" who routinely call Republicans "Rethuglicans" are now lecturing people that the word "thug" is racist.  Especially when the word "thug" derives from India, where it described professional robbers and murderers who strangled their victims.

The PC police need to be stopped at every turn, especially when they are the ones who are warping the meaning of neutral words, claiming they are "racist" when they are not.
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2015, 11:05:28 PM »

It's a compliment (e.g., "thug life")

It can also be used as a racial epithet, yes.

"Rethuglican" is just a hilariously partisan term that even I can't take seriously.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2015, 11:11:42 PM »

9 out of 10 times it's used it's a racial dog whistle.

Especially when "progressives" call Republicans "Rethuglicans".

That's some pretty serious FF vocab for any progressive to be using.

It's all about context, guys.  You ought to be able to know racism when you hear it.  An old white man saying "thug" in a derogatory manner rubs people the wrong way for a good reason.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2015, 11:21:23 PM »

Very context dependent.
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2015, 11:36:20 PM »

9 out of 10 times it's used it's a racial dog whistle.

Not in the Midwest. It is more often applied to mob or gang violence. The race of the mobster or gangbanger doesn't factor into it.
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2015, 11:39:19 PM »

What do you think of the word "thug"? Do you think political correctness is behind the criticism of the word?

Yes.
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2015, 11:57:19 PM »

Wasn't the connection of "thug" to African Americans largely the doing of hip-hop culture embracing the word?  Was it generally a racially connotative word before then?
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2015, 11:58:14 PM »

9 out of 10 times it's used it's a racial dog whistle.
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2015, 02:17:47 AM »

One of Thatcher's fave words actually.
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2015, 02:21:47 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2015, 10:12:32 AM »

Origin -- a cult of robbers in India who killed and robbed long-distance travelers. The ord has been extended in use.   
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2015, 10:41:02 AM »

9 out of 10 times it's used it's a racial dog whistle.

Especially when "progressives" call Republicans "Rethuglicans".

The PC police need to go away and stop telling people what they can and can't say.

You can say whatever you like, you just shouldn't feel that people are obligated to agree with you and praise you for your opinions. No one is ever obligated to agree with you.
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2015, 11:26:31 AM »

It can have racial subtext, but a lot of things can. Around here "thug" is basically interchangeable with "goon" or "gangster" or "hoodlum" (although hoodlum is dated and seldom used) or whatever in that vein. I often say "thug cop" and "thug police" in reference to these police brutality cases, and there's not a grain of racial subtext to it.
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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2015, 11:48:52 AM »


And usually a replacement for the n-word.
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2015, 12:01:03 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2015, 03:21:25 PM »

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